No, I mean the obvious incontrovertible meaning of the Bible as interpreted by normal ordinary readers -- believers of course -- with the exception of a very few difficult passages. I've listened to thousands of Bible preachers and exegetes by now and the Bible overall is NOT hard to understand and the difficulties of interpretation NOT many for BELIEVERS. Unbelievers come up with all kinds of dumb stuff but they don't count.
Sorry, you can't be a believer unless God is guiding you. It's "not by the will of man" that we believe but by the will of God. So our belief is NOT subjective and fallible. And the Church is a corporate body, no one member's interpretation has any particular weight, it's the judgment of the body of believers that determines our understanding.
Sorrrreeee. I know how much you hate to think we know something you don't, but the fact is that we do.
There is no such thing as a valid critique of God's word.
Doesn't work that way. God does it all or it's not valid. You can't believe the Bible is God's word unless He causes you to believe it.
Jesus said: "Without me ye can do nothing."
"In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory" (Ephesians 1:11-12).
"The LORD does whatever pleases him, in the heavens and on the earth, in the seas and all their depths" (Psalm 135:6).
"The LORD works out everything to its proper end—even the wicked for a day of disaster" (Proverbs 16:4).
"For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified" (Romans 8:29-30).
Since you are an unbeliever you have no way to understand what it means that belief is a gift of God who makes the Bible intelligible. Yes we still have to drag around the flesh so alone we can't be sure to interpret the Bible infallibly, but the church body as a whole can be counted on to be guided to the truth by God himself. Sorry you are not in a position to understand. But you are welcome to join us any time by simply asking God to save you. If not, well, so be it.
Only a leftist wouldn't know the difference between the delusions of mental patients and the truth of God's word.
The point I was making Faith is not that believers are mentally ill - tho' some quite obviously are - but that the human mind is capable of believing almost anything from lucky numbers to changing wine into the blood of a long dead person.
The scientific method was designed to overcome that flaw in people.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
Since you are unable to recognize an obvious misreading and obviously misread it yourself, end of subject.
You have to desire salvation from the heart, ask for it with some persevering sincerity and be willing to accept some things that right now you don't accept (I had to accept lots of things that as a former liberal I thought I could never accept), all sorts of tests of that necessary sincerity, though God does help us with lingering unbelief if we ask for that too with the same sincerity. Although I'd be happy to welcome you into the kingdom, with much joy and even some fanfare, I think your approach needs a little work. Let's say I doubt your sincerity. But I could very happily be wrong.
Yes, I think I got your point, but my point is that the ability to distinguish between mental illness and the truth of God's word would persuade you of the uselessness of the scientific method in this case. God gives the knowledge in this case, there is no need for the methods of fallen intellect.