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Author Topic:   Exploring (mostly Cultural) Marxism in today's Left
Faith 
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Message 286 of 381 (813772)
06-30-2017 12:30 PM
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06-30-2017 12:29 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
You've bought a big fat lie based on Leftist bias. Get a clue. That's not what is going on.

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JonF
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Message 287 of 381 (813773)
06-30-2017 12:30 PM
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06-30-2017 12:26 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Then stop accusing people of "kicking the poor in the face," because that is an invitation to murder.
Not at all. I can't see any connection whatsoever between those clauses.
At most it's an invitation to address the reality of what the GOP is attempting to do to the poor.

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Message 288 of 381 (813774)
06-30-2017 12:31 PM
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06-30-2017 12:26 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Faith writes:
Then stop accusing people of "kicking the poor in the face," because that is an invitation to murder.
You're the only one who seems to think so.
Let me repeat: I do not advocate killing anybody. I'm against capital punishment. I'm against the war with ISIS. I'm against killing somebody in self-defence.
Faith writes:
And accusing you of murder is no worse than accusing me of kicking poor people in the face and taking away their health care.
But of course our society DOES consider murder worse than assault, and certainly worse than figurative assault.

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Faith 
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Message 289 of 381 (813776)
06-30-2017 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by JonF
06-30-2017 12:29 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Prove it?
See Message 267

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JonF
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Message 290 of 381 (813777)
06-30-2017 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by Faith
06-30-2017 12:30 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Then stop accusing people of "kicking the poor in the face," because that is an invitation to murder.
Another incantation to avoid addressing issues! Charming.
That's not what is going on.
The GOP health care bill as currently envision would cause tens of thousands of preventable deaths per year among the poor and middle class. Fact.
And it gets even worse when you look beyond the ten-year window the CBO is restricted too.

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Faith 
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Message 291 of 381 (813778)
06-30-2017 12:34 PM
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06-30-2017 12:33 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
That is not a fact, that's a lie.

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Message 292 of 381 (813780)
06-30-2017 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by Faith
06-30-2017 12:25 PM


Re: And so Faith once again resorts to lying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Faith writes:
Everything you've said is a lie. You are accusing people of evil deeds without any restraint whatever and that's a lie that can get people murdered.
And so you continue lying. Everything I have mentioned is called facts Faith.
Christianity has historically been intolerant of other religions including other versions of Christianity.
Christianity was spread over Europe and the North and South Americas by conquest and force.
The Native American lands were taken by force and even US treaties ignored.
Much of the US was taken by conquest and we have never given any of it back.
You really also seem absolutely clueless about Christian Duty. One major Christian Duty is to honestly acknowledge our failing, change our future behavior and try to make reparations to those we have harmed.
There is nothing about killing except in your posts.
And you STILL have not provided any support for either your original topic or this new "move the goal posts" version or any other version.

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JonF
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Message 293 of 381 (813782)
06-30-2017 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by Faith
06-30-2017 12:32 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Prove it?
See Message 267
I did, and replied to it. Yeah, something horrible happened in Rwanda when one group was considered as evil by others. That's not necessarily the result of every time someone considers someone else evil. There were lots of other factors.
How do you describe unnecessarily killing tens of thousands of Americans so the rich can have a tax cut (which won't do the economy any good)?

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Faith 
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Message 294 of 381 (813783)
06-30-2017 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by JonF
06-30-2017 12:38 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Leftist lie.

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JonF
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Message 295 of 381 (813785)
06-30-2017 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 291 by Faith
06-30-2017 12:34 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
That is not a fact, that's a lie.
More incantation.
Prove it.
The link between health care and mortality is well established. More health care, less mortality. Less health care, more mortality. The GOP intends reducing health care significantly. More people will die of preventable or curable causes.
The Relationship of Health Insurance and Mortality: Is Lack of Insurance Deadly?:
quote:
About 28 million Americans are currently uninsured, and millions more could lose coverage under policy reforms proposed in Congress. At the same time, a growing number of policy leaders have called for going beyond the Affordable Care Act to a single-payer national health insurance system that would cover every American. These policy debates lend particular salience to studies evaluating the health effects of insurance coverage. In 2002, an Institute of Medicine review concluded that lack of insurance increases mortality, but several relevant studies have appeared since that time. This article summarizes current evidence concerning the relationship of insurance and mortality. The evidence strengthens confidence in the Institute of Medicine's conclusion that health insurance saves lives: The odds of dying among the insured relative to the uninsured is 0.71 to 0.97.

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JonF
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Message 296 of 381 (813786)
06-30-2017 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 294 by Faith
06-30-2017 12:39 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Leftist lie.
Can't come up with some fresh enchantment? You have to re-use an old one?
No, it's not a lie. The GOP tax cut will cause many deaths. How do you describe unnecessarily killing tens of thousands of Americans so the rich can have a tax cut (which won't do the economy any good)?

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Message 297 of 381 (813789)
06-30-2017 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by Faith
06-30-2017 12:20 PM


Re: Political Correctness again
Faith writes:
Your ideology ends up advocating murder.
Not only do conservatives falsely believe that they are being oppressed and censored simply because people disagree with them, they also think that everyone who disagrees with them wants to murder them. We can add paranoia to the growing list of psychological issues that many conservatives share.

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PaulK
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Message 298 of 381 (813791)
06-30-2017 1:24 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by Faith
06-30-2017 12:00 PM


Re: Political Correctness is engineered class hatred
quote:
HERE's how it works: Remember Rwanda? The Hutus slaughtered the Tutsis after a history of no conflict. Because somebody got on the radio and told them that the Tutsis were "cockroaches" and didn't deserve to live...
And now you remind me of the exchange starting here Message 753
Funny how it took you less than two weeks to go from denying that you say such things to saying them again.

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Faith 
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Message 299 of 381 (813797)
06-30-2017 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by PaulK
06-30-2017 1:24 PM


Re: Political Correctness is engineered class hatred
Say what things? This topic is how PC accuses people of things that can get them killed under the right circumstances, that it's all about finding an enemy to blame for some kind of suffering of somebody else, how Marxism invents an Oppressor and an Oppressed and sets up the Oppressor for abuse, namecalling, intimidation and even murder. That's what it did in the Russian "revolution" and other Communist regimes. It's also what Hitler did. It's also what happened in Rwanda. The accusations are all made up but they have vicious consequences if the circumstances are right.
You say I denied this somewhere? I'm not going to check and if you don't want to clarify I don't care.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 300 of 381 (813800)
06-30-2017 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by Faith
06-30-2017 4:33 PM


Re: Political Correctness is engineered class hatred
quote:
Say what things? This topic is how PC accuses people of things that can get them killed under the right circumstances,
Conditions which don't exist and aren't likely to exist in America.
quote:
...that it's all about finding an enemy to blame for some kind of suffering of somebody else,
That's rather your thing. In fact this whole line is an example of it.
And really, if you are talking about actual Marxism don't you think that employers had a lot to do with the awful working conditions many people suffered in Marx's time ?
Which is rather more than can be said for the targets of your hate.
quote:
You say I denied this somewhere? I'm not going to check and if you don't want to clarify I don't care.
You denied that it was a problem when a Rightist did it. And let us be honest "subhuman vermin" is rather closer to the Nazi attitude than the actual statements you object to.

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