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JonF
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Message 346 of 381 (814478)
07-10-2017 11:27 AM
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07-10-2017 11:01 AM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Sorry, Faith, you're in bed with the neo-Nazis, and "Cultural Marxism" does indeed trace back to Nazi Germany and anti-Semitism.

I haven't seen any sources you've posted on the history of the term and its use. Can you please repost them or point to them?


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jar
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Message 347 of 381 (814479)
07-10-2017 11:37 AM
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07-10-2017 11:01 AM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Faith writes:

How crafty and evil is the Left, to make up such stuff. Staggering. Maybe the weirdest thing is how they succeed at convincing idiot liberals of their destructive aims. I would never have believed that evil murderous lies could take over the world until the last couple of decades, and until seeing it in operation at EvC.

Do you mean evil murderous lies like respecting the US Constitution and prohibiting discrimination and granting equal access to legal counsel and reporting actual facts instead of fantasies or do you have some other evil murderous lies in mind?

But you still have not presented any evidence related to Exploring (mostly Cultural) Marxism in today's Left other than unsupported assertions from the Right Wing Fascists.


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Faith
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Message 348 of 381 (814482)
07-10-2017 11:54 AM
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07-10-2017 11:27 AM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Even your own lying propaganda admits that the subject may be confined to the work of the Frankfurt School, which is all I've referred to on this thread. The rest is smear.

The lying left is too depressing. If you don't want to review the thread, go ahead and believe the lies. The Bible says there will be those so deluded as the end approaches they'll just continue in it to the bitter finale. Marxism is certainly one of the major tools the devil is using to bring it on.


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jar
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Message 349 of 381 (814486)
07-10-2017 12:01 PM
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07-10-2017 11:54 AM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Faith writes:

The Bible says there will be those so deluded as the end approaches they'll just continue in it to the bitter finale. Marxism is certainly one of the major tools the devil is using to bring it on.

The Bible says there will be those so deluded as the end approaches they'll just continue in it to the bitter finale. Biblical Christianity is certainly one of the major tools the devil is using to bring it on.


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Faith
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Message 350 of 381 (814491)
07-10-2017 12:04 PM
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07-10-2017 12:01 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
I think you've hit on a major formula for bringing on the Antichrist. Just put "Christianity" in the place of any evil ideology and you've nailed it.
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jar
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Message 351 of 381 (814492)
07-10-2017 12:06 PM
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07-10-2017 12:04 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
What I have done is point out the utter worthlessness and absurdity of what you post.

And note, I did not substitute Christianity but rather Biblical Christianity.


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Faith
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Message 352 of 381 (814493)
07-10-2017 12:09 PM
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07-10-2017 12:06 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Oh beg your pardon. That's really a much better way of summoning the Antichrist since he will identify himself with Christianity but Biblical Christianity will oppose him. If you vilify Biblical Christianity and identify it with the Antichrist you will certainly succeed in confusing people enough to make them prey to the world powers of evil. Good show.
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Message 353 of 381 (814495)
07-10-2017 12:11 PM
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07-10-2017 12:09 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
As long as good folk oppose Biblical Christianity life still has a chance of survival.

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JonF
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Message 354 of 381 (814497)
07-10-2017 12:14 PM
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07-10-2017 11:54 AM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Even your own lying propaganda admits that the subject may be confined to the work of the Frankfurt School

Where does it admit that?

If you don't want to review the thread, go ahead and believe the lies

IOW ya got nuthin'.

The fact remains that I've demonstrated that the "cultural Marxism" smear is associated strongly with white supremacists and neo-Nazis and anti-Semites, and pretty much nobody else. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.


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Message 355 of 381 (814498)
07-10-2017 12:15 PM
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07-09-2017 5:03 PM


Re: Faith. What would be your "non Marxist" solution to this problem?
Faith writes:

There would never have been a Magna Carta without Christianity.


Again, that would be the Roman Catholic Church.
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Message 356 of 381 (814519)
07-10-2017 2:54 PM
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07-10-2017 11:01 AM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
The idea that it was "invented by Nazis" is screaming insane. It didn't even exist as such until the sixties in America, not Germany.

I believe what Jon is referring to is the idea that modern thinkers who complain about 'cultural Marxism' are the ideological heirs of Nazi's in the 30s who complained about 'Kulturbolschewismus' - cultural Bolshevism. Cultural Bolshevism was all a plot orchestrated by liberal intellectuals and artists to erode the time-honoured traditions of German culture and abolish respect for accepted norms, in order to pave the way for political Bolshevism. The idea is discussed in Mein Kampf; where Hitler is thinking specifically of the field of artistic culture as being the thin end of the Bolshevist wedge destroying society.

quote:
In this connection attention must be drawn once again to the want of courage
displayed by one section of our people, namely, by those who, in virtue of their
education and position, ought to have felt themselves obliged to take up a firm
stand against this outrage on our culture. But they refrained from offering
serious resistance and surrendered to what they considered the inevitable. This
abdication of theirs was due, however, to sheer funk lest the apostles of
Bolshevist art might raise a rumpus; for those apostles always violently attacked
everyone who was not ready to recognize them as the choice spirits of artistic
creation, and they tried to strangle all opposition by saying that it was the
product of Philistine and backwater minds.

I realise I never got round to writing any more about Marx - I got distracted, sorry. Need to go and reread the Manifesto!


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Message 357 of 381 (814520)
07-10-2017 3:03 PM
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07-10-2017 12:15 PM


Re: Faith. What would be your "non Marxist" solution to this problem?
Also her examples of the practice of founding of hospitals and orphanages was Roman Catholic. Those Protestants are just a bunch of copy-cats who then falsely try to take all the credit.
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Faith
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Message 358 of 381 (814522)
07-10-2017 3:39 PM
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07-10-2017 12:15 PM


The true Christians who are still in the Roman Church need to leave it
It would have been the still-Christian elements within the RCC, not the RCC hierarchy which was corrupted since the inception of the papacy as world ruler, and the incorporation of pagan superstitions. There had to be Christian elements within the RCC all along because that's what inspired the Protestant Reformation and the earlier reformers before them. There are still Christians within the RCC, even many who recognize the corruption of the papacy but nevertheless hold onto what is still truly Christian. For their own good they need to face the fact that Christianity is not of the essence of the RCC and leave it the way the Protestant Reformers did.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Faith
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Message 359 of 381 (814524)
07-10-2017 4:06 PM
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07-10-2017 12:14 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
You've "demonstrated" no such thing. You've bought the Leftist propaganda smear that ignores the facts and makes a mountain out of a belated white supremacist molehill that has nothing whatever to do with the facts. Typical propaganda coup though. It sure doesn't take much to convince people of Satan's lies against God.

Interesting though. After I wrote on this theme earlier I went out to the kitchen to get some breakfast and turned on the radio out there as I usually do, which is tuned to one of the two conservative stations, and heard discussion of how the leftist media is spinning Trump's speech about the greatness of the west, its foundation on family and Christian values and so on, all the values I try to defend here against the leftist powers of destruction, Marxism on this thread. Trump defends the greatness of the west and particularly America, which was recognized around the world until the last few decades, and still draws people who want to live here because of its huge success as a civilization. But the spin these days is that it was all racist evils, all about the white race, all against other races, just the typical depressing lying Marxist spin. It makes me sick, it makes me cry. It never had anything to do with race, it's all about sane go9verning policies based on the humane teachings of Christianity, and it ought to be recognized as the work of the Evil One when it is attacked as it has been by the Left, which this thread is showing to be driven by Cultural Marxism. The reduction of the greatness of western civilization to racism is so evil and disgusting all any sane person can do is mourn such demented destructiveness. How on earth did the educational system get taken over by these barbarian idiots?


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JonF
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Message 360 of 381 (814527)
07-10-2017 4:39 PM
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07-10-2017 4:06 PM


Re: Just another leftist smear campaign
Ignoring facts doesn't work.

Stormfront and Daily Storm and other neo-Nazi sites are pushing the claims of "Cultural Marxism". Pretty much nobody else does.


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