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Author Topic:   Health 4 Life~The Science Behind Consumption
Phat
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Message 46 of 59 (816334)
08-03-2017 1:21 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by New Cat's Eye
08-02-2017 12:05 PM


Re: Day 16 brings good news
NCE writes:

Also keep in mind that ketosis has to be maintained and that you can fall back into glycosis as the default. So, if you have a bad timeframe where you end up eating a bunch of sugar, you're going to go back into glycosis and then you're going to have to go back through the "learning process" to get your body back into ketosis.

Although a lapse of a day or two wont mean that you need 21 more days to get back to ketosis. A lapse would mean a couple of days before the ketosis kicked back in.(After the enzymes have been built in the first 3-4 weeks, that is.)

Phat writes:

I weighed in yesterday and was astounded! I weigh 223.7!! Adding in a water weight fluctuation factor of 6 pounds, my official weight is 224-230.

NCE writes:

Nice, keep on it.

I weighed 157 this morning. The most I ever saw on a scale was 245, iirc.

The most I have weighed is 290. The average for the past 5 years has been around 235-240. I am making great gains! I have not weighed 224 since shortly after High School, 40 years ago.

NCE writes:

Maybe do some caffeine?

I did! Caffeine is not an instant fix for my disease and body type. It will work eventually, but not nearly as readily as it does for you.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 47 of 59 (816693)
08-09-2017 2:35 PM
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08-03-2017 1:21 AM


Re: Day 16 brings good news
How's it going this week?

I've kept on a few pounds and am up to 160 now

I can bench press 150 lbs and can run a mile in 8 minutes - two goals I set for myself that I can say that I have achieved!


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Phat
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Message 48 of 59 (816707)
08-09-2017 5:03 PM
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08-09-2017 2:35 PM


Day #1 To Be Honest. I have relapsed
After a long vacation in which I was strictly on my low carb regimen for two weeks, and after another week before that, I stumbled shortly after day 22. For some reason, I just went nuts and allowed myself to eat the worst doses of sugar laden foods for not just one day but two. I had already told myself that I would allow a lapse (1 day) without starting over, but when I faltered two days I had to fess up.

Today I am back on the regimen, a bit disillusioned but still determined to follow this healthy living goal to its fruition.

In The Stages Of Change Model, Relapse is actually predicted to be a hopefully brief yet anticipated result of action/maintenance.

Perhaps I am rationalizing my failure, however. My challenge is how to hop back on this horse without sliding back to contemplation. I really want to change for good, but some of those old comfort foods are as powerful of an allure as any drug. My relapse was brief, however. Today again marks day#1 and hopefully continued progress. (Todays estimated weight--after the relapse---is 228)


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 49 of 59 (816732)
08-10-2017 7:23 AM
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08-09-2017 5:03 PM


Re: Day #1 To Be Honest. I have relapsed
If you do [blockcolor=white][img]http://sphweb.bumc.bu.edu/...eories/Stages%20of%20Change.png [/img][/blockcolor] you get

Usually have to do this for png images as they have transparent background in the images.

I've been relapsing (I love pasta). Time to get strong again. Thanks for inspiration.

Enjoy


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Message 50 of 59 (816752)
08-10-2017 1:44 PM
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08-09-2017 5:03 PM


Re: Day #1 To Be Honest. I have relapsed
Perhaps I am rationalizing my failure, however.

Fuck that. You failed. Shit happens. Get over it.

Look forward. Get back on track. You can do it.


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Message 51 of 59 (816902)
08-13-2017 8:13 AM
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08-10-2017 1:44 PM


Reevaluating my lessons learned over the past year
I make audio diaries...journals if you will. After this last cycle of relapse, I found that my discipline was falling apart. Moreover, I had a callous and uncaring attitude....one in which I was unaware of consciously, though when Faith brought hers up, I saw myself in her. You may think it is easy to simply jump back on the proverbial horse, though the reasons for being on the horse in the first place are far deeper than simply so I can bench press 180 and look good on the beach!

One must evaluate their purpose in life, and consciously decide how they wish to approach not only each day...but each minute of each day. When my focus was on sobriety in way of numbers, I dutifully remained sober each day. How I did so was not so clear to me---I just did it. Upon reviewing my old diaries, however, I discovered that my faith and my grasp of reality were very influential in my progress.

It is no shame to start over at anything. The shame occurs when one simply gives up.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 52 of 59 (816909)
08-13-2017 12:30 PM
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08-13-2017 8:13 AM


Re: Reevaluating my lessons learned over the past year
I'm very sorry if my own lack of motivation has had a negative effect on your efforts, Phat. I wish you strength and resolve for your project.
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Message 53 of 59 (817287)
08-16-2017 12:11 PM
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08-13-2017 8:13 AM


Re: Reevaluating my lessons learned over the past year
I make audio diaries...journals if you will.

No shit... I found myself waking up in the middle of the night with all kinds of thoughts that I would want to address the next day, and then later I would find myself forgetting exactly what it was I was thinking the night before.

So, I started taking notes on my phone... Reading my notes from the night before certainly helped a lot. But I got tired of finger-punching all that text in, so one night I just turned on the video camera and talked - uh, to myself...

Watching those videos was crazy - and it taught me a lot about myself and really helped me out.

Getting that feedback from yourself, to yourself, is incredibly important in my experience, and is something that should not be overlooked.

It is no shame to start over at anything. The shame occurs when one simply gives up.

Word. How's it coming along?


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Message 54 of 59 (817289)
08-16-2017 12:13 PM
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08-13-2017 12:30 PM


Re: Reevaluating my lessons learned over the past year
I'm very sorry if my own lack of motivation has had a negative effect on your efforts, Phat. I wish you strength and resolve for your project.

I am just dropping you a bare link, but I do hope that you read it:

You Don't Need Motivation, You Need Discipline

It's true.


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Message 55 of 59 (817308)
08-16-2017 1:42 PM
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08-16-2017 12:13 PM


Re: Reevaluating my lessons learned over the past year
Well I don't have discipline either. After decades of going through the yo-yo effect it's hard to drum up the will to do it again.

I've been changing some things in my diet but related to general health rather than weight loss, such as eating more of the foods I've found out are good for various ailments I have. That isn't very difficult but it may actually exacerbate the weight problem.

I'm still hoping I may get the motivation/discipline to focus on the weight.

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Message 56 of 59 (817328)
08-16-2017 4:24 PM
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08-16-2017 12:11 PM


Day # 4. (Day One was August 13th)
Word. How's it coming along?
Im back on the horse and am feeling shaky but determined.

We can now test whether it will take 21 days (again) to build the fat burning enzymes or whether enough were built the first time ending a week ago.

Perhaps I am being a bit obsessive over strict adherence to this lifestyle change, but journaling days of success seems to work for me...at least it did on the gambling.

Also, I took the plunge financially and bought a 2-year health club membership as of today. Soon I will include that data in my reports.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 57 of 59 (817397)
08-17-2017 11:04 AM
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08-16-2017 4:24 PM


Re: Day # 4. (Day One was August 13th)
Im back on the horse and am feeling shaky but determined.

Rad.

Also, I took the plunge financially and bought a 2-year health club membership as of today.

Ease into it - don't go overboard in the beginning and get disheartened.


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Message 58 of 59 (817520)
08-17-2017 11:52 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by New Cat's Eye
07-20-2017 10:07 AM


Re: Science & Emotions
I doubt yours is below 15%.

I bet it is. I'm 6'1" and 155 lbs. My BMI is 20.4 (not that that means much).

Maybe I'll upload a shirtless selfie... You can check out my ribs

Here, Phat: http://imgur.com/D0vu3EN

What percent body fat do you think I'm at?


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Phat
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Message 59 of 59 (817565)
08-18-2017 10:28 AM
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08-17-2017 11:52 PM


Re: Science & Emotions
OK I'll say you are 10%. I also looked at pics of elite runners who claim low body fat in order to compare.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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