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Huntard
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Message 46 of 195 (817167)
08-15-2017 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Taq
08-15-2017 3:59 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Taq writes:
I don't see how that addresses what was said. One of the more popular voices on the political right is accusing jews of faking the riots.
I don't entirely agree with this statement. He specifically names the "leftist jews", and also adds "nothing against jews in general". So I think he's more upset with them being "leftist" than them being jews.

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Huntard
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Message 48 of 195 (817169)
08-15-2017 4:52 PM
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08-15-2017 4:49 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
PaulK writes:
Then why is he alleging that they are Jews ?
Since he describes their looks I'm thinking because that's what he thinks all jews look like?

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Huntard
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Message 50 of 195 (817171)
08-15-2017 4:59 PM
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08-15-2017 4:58 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Generalizing looks is anti semitic?

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Huntard
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Message 52 of 195 (817175)
08-15-2017 5:12 PM
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08-15-2017 5:05 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
I have only seen the quote from Jones, and from that quote I think he is blaming "leftists" who he thinks happen to be Jews, rather than Jews who he thinks happen to be "leftists". I don't know if he has said stuff in the past that was blatantly anti-semitic, but I can't recall anythnig. This quote alone I don't think suffices to call him an all out anti-semite.
That was all I was trying to say. Jones is nutty enough as is.

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Huntard
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Message 57 of 195 (817181)
08-15-2017 5:24 PM
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08-15-2017 5:15 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
And it seems pretty clear to me that he isn't, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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Huntard
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Message 60 of 195 (817188)
08-15-2017 5:35 PM
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08-15-2017 5:26 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Taq writes:
That's like someone saying that they have no problem with black people, just those "uppity niggers".
I can't believe I'm defending Jones on this, but I just did some digging and I found this quote from him:
quote:
To sit there and then say that all the ills in the world are then caused by Jews is wrong. Jews are a very diverse wide group of people who have a lot of different political ideas, I am Jewish. Now I’m not, but with talk like thatyou want to kill the Jews you’re going to have to kill me
It's from this clip:
Granted, it's from 2011, so maybe he changed his views, but I think you guys are reading way too much into this.
Jones thinks there's a leftist conspiracy, some of these leftists are jews. That is all he is saying. Granted he is saying it in a way that could be interpreted the way you are doing. So as to cash in on all those anti-semites that need some "potency water" or what have you from Jones's store. But I don't think he himself is an anti-semite.
Edited by Huntard, : Fixed video link

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Huntard
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Message 63 of 195 (817194)
08-15-2017 5:40 PM
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08-15-2017 5:37 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Well, one: he wants that anti-semite money. And two: he believes the people he saw were Jews.

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Huntard
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Message 65 of 195 (817198)
08-15-2017 5:44 PM
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08-15-2017 5:41 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Yes, but I think that is because he believes they were Jews. And because he wants that sweet sweet anti-semite money.

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Huntard
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Message 73 of 195 (817206)
08-15-2017 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Taq
08-15-2017 5:48 PM


Re: And Alex Jones blames...Jews
Taq writes:
Hitler
Now now, don't Godwin this shit.
Hitler believed all Jews needed to die, not only because of their imagined conspiracies, but also to purify his imagined Aryan race and a whole lot of other reasons. Jones has literally said that he doesn't think all Jews should be killed, he just hates all "leftists", some of which happen to be Jews. And these should be dealt with (I don't think he has said anywhere he thinks "leftists" should be killed).
{ABE}: To put it more bluntly, Hitler said this:
quote:
Wenn es dem internationalen Finanzjudentum in und auerhalb Europas gelingen sollte, die Vlker noch einmal in einen Weltkrieg zu strzen, dann wird das Ergebnis nicht die Bolschewisierung der Erde und damit der Sieg des Judentums sein, sondern die Vernichtung der jdischen Rasse in Europa
Translation: When the international Financial Jews within and without Europe would succeed in plunging the peoples into another world war, then the outcome shall not be the Bolsjewickization of the earth and with it the victory of the Jews, but the annihilation of the Jewish race from Europe
Jones said:
quote:
To sit there and then say that all the ills in the world are then caused by Jews is wrong. Jews are a very diverse wide group of people who have a lot of different political ideas, I am Jewish. Now I’m not, but with talk like thatyou want to kill the Jews you’re going to have to kill me
So yeah, I know which one I would call an anti-semite.
Edited by Huntard, : Added quotes.

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2320 days)
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Message 120 of 195 (817464)
08-17-2017 3:18 PM


News report on Charlottesville
Interesting newsreport by Vice, who were on the scene at Charlottesville, well worth a watch.

  
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