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Faith 
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Message 526 of 899 (819761)
09-14-2017 4:01 PM
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09-14-2017 3:55 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
You really think that gradually accumulating dust or ash could become anything like the strata of the Geologic Column?
The Geologic Column was formed by the Flood, the current deposits are not continuous with the deposits of that one-time event.

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Faith 
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Message 527 of 899 (819762)
09-14-2017 4:07 PM
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09-14-2017 3:44 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
HEY! SHOW ME these supposed current varve deposits that I'm supposed to think are part of the Geo Column.

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Taq
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Message 528 of 899 (819763)
09-14-2017 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 527 by Faith
09-14-2017 4:07 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Faith writes:
HEY! SHOW ME these supposed current varve deposits that I'm supposed to think are part of the Geo Column.
I already did in other threads. You are wrong.

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Taq
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Message 529 of 899 (819764)
09-14-2017 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 524 by Faith
09-14-2017 3:48 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Faith writes:
The Geologic Column was formed by the Flood, the current deposits are not continuous with the deposits of that one-time event.
They are continuous. You are wrong.

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Coyote
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Message 530 of 899 (819765)
09-14-2017 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 526 by Faith
09-14-2017 4:01 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Current deposits go right on top of older ones. Eventually they either merge to form a single layer or, if different, form identifiable strata.
That's just the way things work.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Faith 
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Message 531 of 899 (819766)
09-14-2017 4:26 PM
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09-14-2017 4:14 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Prove it. Show me a KNOWN example of a RECENTLY deposited LAYER like those in the Geo Column.

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edge
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Message 532 of 899 (819767)
09-14-2017 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 520 by Faith
09-14-2017 3:41 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Nothing, they're just sediments being deposited here and there, not part of anything.
Heh, heh ...
Nothing.
Like six miles of sediments in the Mississippi Delta or 3 miles of coral in the Bahamas Banks.
Nothing at all ...

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edge
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Message 533 of 899 (819768)
09-14-2017 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 530 by Coyote
09-14-2017 4:14 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Current deposits go right on top of older ones. Eventually they either merge to form a single layer or, if different, form identifiable strata.
That's just the way things work.
Faith's definition of the geological column is kind of idiosyncratic. She only includes thick, widespread and flat formations. Other than that, the science of stratigraphy is dead.
This even though the processes that we know created the 'geological column' continue. We still see basins forming, continents colliding, rapid erosion, volcanism and earthquakes. The earth is still 'alive'.
There is no way to penetrate the wall of denial that she possesses. It's just too easy to dismiss anything factual.

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Percy
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Message 534 of 899 (819769)
09-14-2017 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 515 by Faith
09-14-2017 3:22 PM


Faith writes:
After that I did not run away, I posted more substantially. But I may yet run away, we'll see.
Of course you ran away, and of course you did not post "more substantially". This is your first post since returning from your brief hiatus, so it isn't even possible for there have been a message where you posted "more substantially."
And all those rebuttals to your arguments that you never replied to? Still waiting for you out there. Probably never to be replied to, and instead you'll just make your original arguments from scratch all over again. Prove me wrong.
After that I did not run away, I posted more substantially.
Of course you'll run away. After over a decade of "run and hide" debate, why would you change now?
Instead of playing "Now you see me, now you don't" while never completing discussion of anything, why don't you finally, at last, see a discussion through to the end.
--Percy

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edge
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Message 535 of 899 (819770)
09-14-2017 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 526 by Faith
09-14-2017 4:01 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
You really think that gradually accumulating dust or ash could become anything like the strata of the Geologic Column?
Why not? We find them throughout the geological column.
The Geologic Column was formed by the Flood, the current deposits are not continuous with the deposits of that one-time event.
Only according to Faith.
What else would they be part of?

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Faith 
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Message 536 of 899 (819771)
09-14-2017 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 534 by Percy
09-14-2017 4:44 PM


You are wrong. I did start giving up on threads but only about three years ago because the attitude here was getting to me. But even after that I posted a LOT of VERY substantivel argument. And for you to say otherwise is just another example of the attitude I'm talking about. The real question is why I post here at all given the attitude I have to put up with.

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Faith 
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Message 537 of 899 (819772)
09-14-2017 4:49 PM
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09-14-2017 4:47 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
PROVE IT!

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Faith 
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Message 538 of 899 (819773)
09-14-2017 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 533 by edge
09-14-2017 4:41 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
I know what the Geological Column is and it is not gradually accumulated sediments.

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Coyote
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Message 539 of 899 (819774)
09-14-2017 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 531 by Faith
09-14-2017 4:26 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
Mt. St. Helens ash and Hawaiian lava flows.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.

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Faith 
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From: Nevada, USA
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Message 540 of 899 (819775)
09-14-2017 4:52 PM
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09-14-2017 4:51 PM


Re: A charming fat fish proves radiometic dating is false cuz the varves aren't annual
THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE GEOLOGIC COLUMN.

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