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Tanypteryx
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Message 16 of 53 (819212)
09-07-2017 10:05 PM


Images from the ISS:

The size of this storm is astounding.


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Message 17 of 53 (819222)
09-08-2017 2:21 AM
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Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew. They estimate that Irma will cause 50 billion dollars in damage to the United States. (Some insurance underwriters say the bill could be 300 billion with a direct hit on Miami)

This is based on the 26 billion that Andrew caused, extrapolated into 2017 dollars. Look at the relative size of Irma compared with Andrew(Images superimposed)

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Message 18 of 53 (819239)
09-08-2017 7:37 AM
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Re: Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
Maybe those hurricanes hitting Texas and Florida is God's way of punishing Texans and Floridians for voting Trump?

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Message 19 of 53 (819242)
09-08-2017 8:14 AM
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Re: Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
I was living in Melbourne Beach Florida (8ft above sea level and about 50 miles south of the Space Center) when Andrew hit. It was a beautiful sunny day as all the clouds/moisture were being sucked into Andrew.

Unfortunately, the latest track has the eye of Irma going directly over Orlando and my home.

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Message 20 of 53 (819244)
09-08-2017 8:26 AM
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Re: Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
I wish you all the best. Get away.

Even Afghanistan would be safer. And the weather is nice this time of year over there. Or so I heard.

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Message 21 of 53 (819338)
09-09-2017 5:53 PM
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Re: Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
Well.. let's look at it.

One of the big pieces of property in St Martin's was Trump's mansion he was trying to sell for 48M dollars. That is totally destroyed.

Next on the list is Mar Largo. We'll see what Irma does to that.

The only conclusion I have is that God hates Trump.


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Message 22 of 53 (819347)
09-09-2017 7:17 PM


I have two elderly friends on the west coast of Florida, which usually doesn't get the brunt of hurricanes. But this time it's going to hit them pretty hard too. One of them is closer to members of my family so I figure they are in touch; I'm in touch with the other one who says he's laid in a lot of provisions and figures with faith he and his cats will be fine. I hope he's right but he didn't mention laying in water, or any way of preserving food if the power goes out (which it has already for 25000 people south of him), or an alternative source of power, a kerosene lantern? I suppose he at least has candles. A TWELVE-FOOT surge is possible. Yikes.
    
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Message 23 of 53 (819350)
09-09-2017 7:29 PM
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Re: Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
Trump has enough resources that even losing a couple of expensive properties won't make a dent in them you know. It's the poorest people who will suffer the most as usual, the ones who will never get their houses back and have nowhere else to go.
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Message 24 of 53 (819358)
09-10-2017 12:22 AM
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Re: Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
So, see what Trump is doing to the common man??
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Message 25 of 53 (819359)
09-10-2017 1:01 AM
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Re: Hurricane Irma likely to be far worse than monster Andrew
Irma is Trump's fault?

There are people who never recovered from Katrina and never will.

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Message 26 of 53 (819362)
09-10-2017 2:47 AM
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09-08-2017 7:37 AM


Hurricanes and Presidents
I hate to make light of the disasters happening, but...

I got to wondering if there was any correlation between major hurricanes and which party held the White House.

I didn't do in depth research, but I did discover this article:

Obama Longest-Serving President With No Major Hurricane Strike

Dated January 23, 2017

quote:
(CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama was the longest-serving president in U.S. history to have no major hurricanes strike the continental U.S. during his term of office, according to data published by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Tuesday marks an unprecedented 11 years and three months since a major hurricane, defined as a Category 3 or above on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale, made landfall in the U.S.


...and at the end of the article:

quote:
Only four chief executives since 1851 have not had a major hurricane strike the U.S. on their watch: Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865); Andrew Johnson (1865-1869); James Garfield (who served only six months prior to his assassination in 1881); and Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893).

But none of them were in office as long as Obama.


Now 7 months into the Trump administration, we've had or are having what looks to be the two most destructive hurricanes in U.S. history.

Still an atheist, though.

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Message 27 of 53 (819368)
09-10-2017 7:27 AM
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Re: Hurricanes and Presidents
Now 7 months into the Trump administration, we've had or are having what looks to be the two most destructive hurricanes in U.S. history.

Hurricanes thrive on hot air ...


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Message 28 of 53 (819374)
09-10-2017 8:23 AM
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09-10-2017 7:27 AM


Florida Keys hit first...

One disgruntled resident ranted that the forecasts had been for the eastern side of Florida until recently and he was mad at the weather service for misleading him!


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
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"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 29 of 53 (819379)
09-10-2017 10:15 AM
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Re: Florida Keys hit first...
One disgruntled resident ranted that the forecasts had been for the eastern side of Florida until recently and he was mad at the weather service for misleading him!

Guess he'll have to wait for the next one ... (be careful what you wish for?)

https://www.weatherforyou.com/reports/index.php?forecast=...

Yeah, Key West got hammered.

Enjoy

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Message 30 of 53 (819381)
09-10-2017 11:01 AM
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09-10-2017 8:23 AM


Re: Florida Keys hit first...
One disgruntled resident ranted that the forecasts had been for the eastern side of Florida until recently and he was mad at the weather service for misleading him!

Hurricanes are notoriously unpredictable. Just too many variables to be able to properly forecast passed a certain time-frame. Being in Central Florida, we are usually in the safest part of the state, depending on the path of various storms.

By the way, as of this morning, I am just starting to feel the outer effects of Irma. Lots of cloud cover and drizzle. By this afternoon and evening, the winds will pick up and the rain will become more intense. The good news from my perspective is the main eye of the storm is well west of me. But due to the size of Irma, pretty much everyone in the whole state is affected.


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