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Pressie
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Message 46 of 55 (821764)
10-12-2017 4:42 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Coyote
10-11-2017 9:57 PM


Re: Forum Guidelines
granpa thinks he did. He wrote LOL in Message 9.

To sane people that's not even a response; while people such as granpa think it's a comprehensive and rational rebuttal. Not only to your work, but also to all the work done by hundreds of thousands of scientists from all over the world doing studies relevant to the subject.

Just by writing LOL.

Edited by Pressie, : Changed message 9 to Message 9.


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granpa
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Message 47 of 55 (821765)
10-12-2017 4:53 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Pressie
10-12-2017 4:42 AM


Re: Forum Guidelines
Now read message 16

Why BELIEVE that it will rain today when you can KNOW that it might rain today. Belief is unnecessary and illogical.

A moral person is a person that understands that the universe does not revolve around their ego.

A civilized society is a society whose laws do not revolve around any one person or group of people.
The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.


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Pressie
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Message 48 of 55 (821766)
10-12-2017 6:26 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by granpa
10-12-2017 4:53 AM


Re: Forum Guidelines
I did. Still no sane response from you.
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RAZD
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Message 49 of 55 (821768)
10-12-2017 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by granpa
10-11-2017 8:37 PM


Re: Forum Guidelines (addendum): quit bitchin, start answering.
I answered his questions before he even asked them in the thread that got closed

Except this isn't true. In Message 27 I went through ALL of your posted material looking for the answers to my questions and could not find them.

All you are doing is whining about your posts being closed, yet you can't seem to answer simple questions related to those posts. I come to the conclusion that you can't answer those direct questions because you don't have answers, just general statements.

quote:
Message 26: So condense it down.

Was there a world wide flood? Yes No

If "yes" then when did it happen? ______________ Billion Million Thousand years ago.

How old do you think the earth is? ______________ Billion Million Thousand years old.

Answer these questions and then we can get to your evidence.

The purpose is to understand your position, I'm trying to make it easy for you.


You say the earth was covered with water due to the decaying orbit of this purported "Thea" moon of yours, but you don't say it is THE flood of Noah's time or anything about his ark or animals on the ark. Instead you talk about certain people being rivers and other stuff.

If I had written a book and was on book tour and someone asked me about a point in the book, I would answer it, not say "read the book" ... because that is what the conversation/question is about: understanding your point of view.

As it is all your complaints give the impression that you are not familiar enough with what you claim is your material to answer simple questions about it.

Enjoy


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Message 50 of 55 (821769)
10-12-2017 7:25 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by granpa
10-11-2017 6:51 PM


Re: What is your evidence?
I've added many pages to many wikis

Message 37: Granpa ADMIN

75,142 EDITS SINCE JOINING THIS WIKI
25 JANUARY 2010

So in other words your "evidence" is just a bunch of articles that you have written in other places.

That sounds like a total lack of supporting evidence to me, referencing yourself to support yourself is not evidence.

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Message 51 of 55 (821771)
10-12-2017 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by JonF
10-11-2017 9:54 PM


moon data
I don't think much of this guy, but lack of references to moon recession is arguably valid. His numbers are at least close to correct. The phenomenon is well known in some circles, and the claim that it disproves an old Earth is an ancient PRATT.

He has one tid-bit of real information that seems to be picked out of the blue (400 day year in the devonian), but his explanation for it seems a bit whack. Three imaginary moons and the earth in an orbit closer to the sun (which would mean a shorter year not a longer one).

Enjoy

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RAZD
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Message 52 of 55 (821780)
10-12-2017 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by granpa
10-12-2017 4:53 AM


what we have here is a failure to communicate
Now read message 16

If you had typed "Now read [msg=16]" it would have posted

Now read Message 16

With a link to Message 16 for easy peasy follow up

granpa writes:

Message 16: If he had read the link that I posted he would have realized that his comment was completely out of place. I would love to post the text on that page but when I do that I get called out for copying and pasting. When I post a link then I get told I'm not allowed to do that either. I'm between a rock and a hard place here and you're just making it worse.

The question is when are you going to stop dancing around the issues and whining about closed posts and claiming you posted that information somewhere else ... except that you haven't posted it somewhere else ... the question is when are you going to quit bitching and get around to posting something of substance in answer to the questions put to you.

Was there a world wide flood?

If yes, when did that occur?

How old is the earth?

How do you know (what is your evidence)?

You could have answered this in Message 14 and we could be discussing something else by now. Something fun, like imaginary moons.

Instead you dodged and danced and wiggled and whined.

granpa writes:

Message 14: Already answered that in the thread that got closed. What do you want me to do?

Stop dancing and give some simple easy peasy answers to these easy peasy questions:

Was there a world wide flood?

If yes, when did that occur?

How old is the earth?

How do you know (what is your evidence)?

Enjoy

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Message 53 of 55 (821781)
10-12-2017 9:37 AM
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10-12-2017 7:29 AM


Re: moon data
A bit whack. Yeah.
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Message 54 of 55 (821785)
10-12-2017 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by granpa
10-12-2017 4:53 AM


dancing without substance
Now read Message 16

When people questioned your answer in Message 9 your reply was to read msg=16 ... So next time around you will post "Now read Message 47?" Really? This is how you debate?

granpa: see these links for my evidence and support for what I have posted

reply: don't post links, post the pertinent parts in your own words

granpa: those are my words

reply: you wrote those articles?

granpa: I wrote those and many other wiki articles on several wiki sites

In other words your only "evidence" and your only support for your conceptual world theology is ... you.

Is this why you don't answer easy peasy questions?

Not good enough.

Enjoy

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Message 55 of 55 (821786)
10-12-2017 10:24 AM


Closing Soon
This thread is also going nowhere. Closing soon...unless granpa steps up to the plate with a real discussion.

  • Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
  • Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation.
  • The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.

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