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PaulK
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Message 1 of 58 (830125)
03-21-2018 5:32 PM


The suspected bomber operating in Austin, Texas has blown himself up when confronted by police. BBC


"He's thinking of taking some time to figure out what he wants to do...maybe a [religious] mission trip," his mother wrote.


In the blog called "Defining my Stance", he purportedly describes beliefs that "gay marriage should be illegal", opposition to abortion and why the sex offender registry should be eliminated.

In the blog, he defines himself as "a conservative".

He planted at least four bombs, killing two people - both black - and injuring others.


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Message 2 of 58 (830186)
03-24-2018 1:05 PM
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03-21-2018 5:32 PM


The Issue
What specifically is the issue?

Is it mental health?

Is there evidence that right-wing mental health is any worse than left wing mental health?

As for who he blew up, I doubt he targeted any specific person. He just was obsessed with either explosions or notoriety. Again, the issue in my mind is mental health and identification of possible rogue terrorists before they act.


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Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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Message 3 of 58 (830189)
03-24-2018 1:46 PM
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Re: The Issue
Is there evidence that right-wing mental health is any worse than left wing mental health?

There might be, a new study found that right leaning people have enhanced fear centres in the brain. The more you make them feel safe the more left leaning they become.


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


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Message 4 of 58 (842140)
10-27-2018 8:01 AM


Another one
Cesar Sayoc who sent mail bombs to George Soros, former President Obama, Hilary Clinton and other Democrats and critics of President Trump.
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Message 5 of 58 (842182)
10-27-2018 3:53 PM
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10-27-2018 8:01 AM


Re: Another one
Authorities have yet to comment on a suspected motive, but Attorney General Jeff Sessions said "he appears to be partisan".

Did Sessions just go off-script? I thought right-wing terrorists were supposed to be described as "lone wolves" or "mentally disturbed".


We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. -- John McCain

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Message 6 of 58 (842187)
10-27-2018 4:05 PM
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10-27-2018 3:53 PM


Re: Another one
hmmmm.
Lets ask Mr.Dictionary...
Google Dictionary writes:

par·ti·san ˈpärdəzən
noun
noun partisan plural noun partisans noun partizan plural noun partizans
a strong supporter of a party, cause, or person.
supporter follower adherent devotee champion fanatic fan enthusiast stalwart zealot booster
a member of an armed group formed to fight secretly against an occupying force, in particular one operating in enemy-occupied Yugoslavia, Italy, and parts of eastern Europe in World War II.
guerrilla freedom fighter resistance fighter underground fighter irregular (soldier)
adjective
adjective partisan adjective partizan
prejudiced in favor of a particular cause.
biased prejudiced one-sided discriminatory colored partial interested sectarian factional

Evidently, they can't deny that he was an avid Trump supporter. Partisan is simply a euphemism for "crazy, but one of our crazies!"


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
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Message 7 of 58 (842222)
10-28-2018 3:11 AM
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10-27-2018 4:05 PM


Re: Another one
At least the Synagogue shooter wasn’t a Trump supporter. He was still a rabid right-winger, though.

And racist violence against blacks is still a thing in Kentucky


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Message 8 of 58 (844642)
12-03-2018 9:51 AM


Left wing terroism
Actually in the last 2 years, left wing terrorists have committed more murders than Right wing terrorists. Since 1992, minus the Oklahoma City bombing, Right wing terrorists only committed a few more murders than left.

What I don't like is how we are obsessed with tying these horrific acts to an ideology, and not mental illness. As if to say, see, being a right winger is bad, you're all bad. Especially since the exact opposite logic is applied when a left winger talks about a Islamic terrorist.


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Message 9 of 58 (844643)
12-03-2018 10:08 AM
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12-03-2018 9:51 AM


Re: Left wing terroism


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Message 10 of 58 (844647)
12-03-2018 11:10 AM
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12-03-2018 9:51 AM


Re: Left wing terroism
riVeRraT writes:

What I don't like is how we are obsessed with tying these horrific acts to an ideology, and not mental illness.


quote:
"I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative."
-- John Stuart Mill

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 11 of 58 (844649)
12-03-2018 11:53 AM
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12-03-2018 10:08 AM


Re: Left wing terroism
Sorry, but those statistics are entirely wrong or misleading.

https://www.google.com/...-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil/amp


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riVeRraT
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Message 12 of 58 (844650)
12-03-2018 11:54 AM
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12-03-2018 11:10 AM


Re: Left wing terroism
You are what is wrong with America.
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Message 13 of 58 (844651)
12-03-2018 11:59 AM
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Re: Left wing terroism
riVeRraT writes:

You are what is wrong with America.


I'm not American, and proud of it.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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PaulK
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Message 14 of 58 (844652)
12-03-2018 12:07 PM
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12-03-2018 11:53 AM


Re: Left wing terroism
Disagreements don’t necessarily resolve in your favour.

I note also that by my estimate the “few more” in your article comes to about 30%. More, the shooting at the Pittsburgh Synagogue added 11 more to the Right Wing toll.


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Message 15 of 58 (844653)
12-03-2018 12:30 PM
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Re: Left wing terroism
Your link supports his thesis.
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