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PaulK
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Message 46 of 56 (844828)
12-06-2018 12:39 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by riVeRraT
12-05-2018 6:19 PM


Re: Left wing terroism
So the message I’m getting from you is that Right Wing terrorism - and especially the racism behind it - should be minimised. But opposing racism is really bad.
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riVeRraT
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Message 47 of 56 (844836)
12-06-2018 9:08 AM
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12-05-2018 6:20 PM


Re: Left wing terroism
My sisters cousin once saw a guy with confederate flag and a dodge charger.... How about some actual citations? How about anything saying that militias terrorise, or kill Americans?

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riVeRraT
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Message 48 of 56 (844837)
12-06-2018 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by PaulK
12-06-2018 12:39 AM


Re: Left wing terroism
Oh hell no. Even though I've explain my point multiple times, you still don't get it. Maybe I'll try again?

All terrorism is bad. One isn't worse than the other. One isn't more of a threat than the other. If you are going to talk about, at least be fair and balanced and talk about all of it. Tying the insane acts of lunitics to right or left ideologys is unrealistic. It's not the ideology (unless your ideology tells you to go kill) it's the people. Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people.

It's so hypocritical how the "scientists" in this forum become so unscientifical and biased on certain subjects.


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riVeRraT
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Message 49 of 56 (844838)
12-06-2018 9:21 AM
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12-05-2018 7:12 PM


Re: Left wing terroism
Um no. I would bet a few bucks and say they are all "lefties". Nice try though. Or perhaps you are in denial? Like the Democrat leadership is?
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Message 50 of 56 (844839)
12-06-2018 9:22 AM
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12-06-2018 9:16 AM


Re: Left wing terroism
Or maybe I do get it. You are trying to play down Right Wing terrorism. You are attacking Antifa, despite the fact that they are clearly less focussed on anything that can reasonably be called terrorism.
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Phat
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Message 51 of 56 (844845)
12-06-2018 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by riVeRraT
12-05-2018 6:09 PM


The church does not dictate my worldview.
I never thought mine did either, but in some ways I think that whatt I have read from apologists and pro Chrisian thinkers/philosophers has influenced my worldview. Anyone whom we lsten to does to some degree.
More specifically, since church is man, and God is God, God does not dictate my world view.
Faith would disagree, as she believes that God can and will intervene in human history towards His ultimate glory and purpose. I tended to also think/believe that way though the jury is somewhat out on the degree of Gods involvement.
My worldview dictates my God.
I most definitely don't believe this except to say that it is similar to how jar teaches that we all make up the God of our understanding and preference. I maintain that God exists and created me/us long before we were even capable of imagining/defining Him. jars point stands, however.
I do not call people believers or non-believers. I treat them all the same since we do not know who goes to heaven. Our job is only to love.
Sounds like GDR! I respect that belief.
The atheists here in this forum helped me form my faith.
Yeah. Mine too. To a degree. I stubbornly cling to what I want to be true, so in that sense, my worldview also defines my God I suppose.
God sees that.
I believe that God is aware of everything and everyone. Whether He decides to commune and intervene or is more like Spinoza's God is also in the jury documents. They recently broke for lunch, so it may be a while before we get handed a decision.

If every single person believed in God, we would still have no proof He exists.
Reluctantly, I cant argue except to say that my very belief is based on subjective experience.

Yep I still fly planes. More into freestyle FPV drones. I don't miss this place, but I miss people like you.
I'll probably be here until EvC shuts down...sometime when Percy so decides.

I never bothered to calculate how many left and right wingers there are in the world. Why are we leaving people in the middle out? What difference does it make?
It is worth noting that right wing and left wing motives are based on different presumptions.

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Minnemooseus
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Message 52 of 56 (844858)
12-06-2018 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by riVeRraT
12-06-2018 9:21 AM


Re: Left wing terroism
Re: Antifa

Um no. I would bet a few bucks and say they are all "lefties". Nice try though. Or perhaps you are in denial? Like the Democrat leadership is?

I have no idea of what the political leanings of Antifa are, and I doubt you do. Certainly they are to the left of what they are opposing. So if you define "lefties" as "not of the far right fringe", I grant you that you are probably correct.

I recently read a Rachel Maddow quote somewhere - She said something along the lines of "Politically I lean to the left. I am rather in line with Eisenhower era Republicans".

Moose


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Message 53 of 56 (844867)
12-07-2018 4:10 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Minnemooseus
12-06-2018 7:34 PM


Re: Left wing terroism
I have no idea of what the political leanings of Antifa are, and I doubt you do

You may not, but I'm not sure why, because it's not any sort of mystery. Antifa movements come from far left and anarchosyndicalist roots. This is not some clandestine secret.

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riVeRraT
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Message 54 of 56 (844950)
12-09-2018 6:08 AM
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12-06-2018 9:22 AM


Re: Left wing terroism
I am attacking ALL terrorism. I guess after all these years you still haven't learned to take things at face value, and stop interjecting your own biased opinions. Isn't that the opposite of the scientific method?
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riVeRraT
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Message 55 of 56 (844951)
12-09-2018 6:15 AM
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12-06-2018 12:34 PM


Right and left wing motives are based on different presumptions yes, but when I talk to people, there is mostly people who are not all the way on one side or another. If we are talking world wide, I am sure there are even more things to throw into the mix. So being that it is so subjective, the amount of left vs right wingers is irrelevant to me. That is why the tiny differences in left and right wing terrorists do not concern me, only that we have people in society that think they need to take things to this extreme. People on the left do not get some moral high ground because they think right wing terrorism is worse than left. They are both bad.

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Message 56 of 56 (844952)
12-09-2018 6:22 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Minnemooseus
12-06-2018 7:34 PM


Re: Left wing terroism
Antifa is known for beating people up who are merely attending right wing events or wear MAGA hats.

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