Religion or Science - How do they compare?

In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort.....l.

If you can't tell the difference between fiction and the true accounts of the supernatural there is no way to have a discussion with you.

If God did it it can't be changed, but some choices are made in the flesh and they can be changed.

I'm fine with true accounts, produce these devils and demons, let's have a good look at them.Otherwise I reckon they're just orcs and trolls. My Precious.

No, GDR, I do not WANT any such thing. You have chosen to create your idea of God according to what YOU want, but I haven't done that. I believe the portrait of God in the Bible is simply true and that's why I believe it. Certainly has nothing to do with my own likes and dislikes. I don't like God's severe judgments any more than you do, I simply believe they explain reality, that we are sinners and God's Moral Law must judge sinners harshly, that "the wages of sin is death." So did the God of the Old Testament, who sent His Son to die for us to save us from His harsh justice. The only way that could be done was for God Himself to become man so that by having both natures, the God nature and the human nature He could die in our place and take our deserved punishment upon Himself so we don't have to endure it. Not to appreciate that fact is to trivialize the Jesus you think you admire.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You got it right this time. Theology is the study of ideas about God, not the study of God.And you seem to understand that some ideas about God are wrong - e.g. the idea that God wants His followers to kill non-Muslims.So if some ideas about God are wrong, it's possible for all ideas about God to be wrong - same as all ideas about unicorns are wrong.

We can never know whether God is simply a product of our imagination or whether we are a product of His imagination initially...ideas and beliefs are all we have. God has no physical, measurable or verifiable form.Granted it is possible that our ideas are wrong....evn likely.If you imagined a God, what characteristics would this Deity have? Would He simply leave you alone and be happily invisible? Would He be a She?

Might as well end there then. Almost as it we have nothing at all so we make stuff up isn't it?

Oh come on, Phat, you are falling for the limitations of unbelievers. They can't know God but if you are a Christian then you are born again, and that means you have a revived spirit and CAN know God. Because God is Spirit and is known by spirit. He is not known by mere intellect and our senses are useless because as you say He is invisible and has no form.But if we are born again then Jesus has sent us the Holy Spirit to revive our spirits that died at the Fall so now we can know God. It's like having a sixth sense or a new faculty, it is a different way of knowing. Imagination and intellect and the five senses are all people have who are not born again and you can't know God that way, you have to have a regenerated spirit. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The way Christians study God is by studying His word, the Bible, which reveals Him to us. That's what all Christian theology is.

You don't know that. That's just something you imagine. If I thought some entity had had a significant part in creating the world as we know it, that entity would be an alien species of some sort. They would have technology unknown to us but they would be biological in some way. I see no reason to imagine an entity with no physical, measurable or verifiable form. That's just an excuse for believing in something that isn't verifiable. He has been so far.

Except you always ignore what the Bible actually says and instead simply parrot the dogma of your Cult.

And how do Muslims study God?

Well, their god is not the true God so I have no idea what they'd be studying if they studied what they think God is.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No trace of irony there at all. Nope, can't see any. Nope, none.How about Hindus? Same problem?