Religion or Science - How do they compare?

No trace of irony, no. The God of the Bible is THE God, the Creator God, period. All the others are demon gods or vague notions of a Creator God who is essentially unknown -- because He can't be known by the fallen mind. The demon gods are revealed in God's word the Bible as the gods of all the heathen or pagan nations. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The irony is that the obviously "fallen" mind - i.e. the one that isn't working right - is yours.

Yeah that would be an irony, but of course you don't believe in God and I do.

Not really Faith. You have chosen to worship a deity based on a specific way of understanding of how God wants us to use the Bible. I have chosen a God based on the concept that God's nature, wisdom or Word was perfectly embodied by Jesus. As a result we have come to very different conclusions about the narure of God. Yes, the message that Jesus brought is mostly in the OT but so is a lot of other stuff that He repudiated.I recently read a 600 page book by Flemming Rutledge called simply "Crucifixion". Believe me I don't trivialize what Jesus did. I'd suggest that you trivialize Jesus when you give priority to ancient writings over and above what He said and did even when that which He said was not of God.

Firstly science was started by theists and partly because they were theists they assumed that the universe was orderly and so could be discovered. And again, you confuse process with agency. I have never said it was mindless. I have agreed that there is a great deal of randomness as part of the process. Again, process and agency What I don't believe is that all of the processes needed to bring about the world as we know could have occured from mindless origins. You, however believe that they could have.

I was persuaded of the TRUTH of the traditional Protestant Reformation doctrines that are standard evangelical truth. I therefore accept everything God said about Himself. You on the other hand make up your God out of your own extremely inadequate ideas of who Jesus was and what He taught.

"...even when that which He said was not of God?????????" Are you talking about Jesus here? Jesus IS God, He can't say ANYTHING that is not of God.I tried to find out what theological persuasion Fleming Rutledge represents and couldn't find a review from anybody I know. It's perhaps enough to know she's a pastor of an Episcopal Church, which is against Christian teaching.

Hmm.. so you are persuaded by what a group of guys said about what a group guys wrote thousands of years earlier and are saying that it is straight from God. It is making a false idol out of the Bible, at the expense of what God has done in and through Jesus of Nazareth.

.. even when He rejects and/or corrects what is in the OT. So the point is you are careful not to read a book by someone who disagrees with your views.

I am careful to avoid heretical writings these days, yes. It's not worth wasting my fragile eyesight on stuff like that.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It sure does keep you from learning anything new though.

So much for love thy neighbour.World peace isn't coming any time soon according to this childish fantasy.

Irrelevant. And again you misunderstand. Deliberately, I can only assume. The agent IS the process. If you think there is another agent standing outside the process you have to produce it and show its influence.Your problem is that you've already accepted that evolution is a random process so the only place an agent can be introduced is at the very start of the process. But if the process is random, the outcome can not be determined in any way. You've said it hundreds of time, do I have to go find them?
Now you're equivocating with 'a great deal of randomness'. Like pregnancy, randomness is binary - random or non-randon? Which?At what point is your god interfering with the random process making it random for a while, then non-random, then random again? Yeh, we know what you believe and don't believe. Sigh.....

I read a lot of heresies, cults, occultism, before going with what I recognized to be the truth. Heresies aren't new, they are very old. At some point, especially with bad eyes, the reasonable thing to do is stop wasting time on the devil's lies and grow in what you know to be true.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That's interesting. World peace depends on telling lies? Loving your neighbor means allowing them to go on in the thrall of demon gods?