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Message 61 of 89 (833287)
05-19-2018 10:15 AM
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05-19-2018 8:38 AM


Re: Re-Dark Matter
"Do you have any evidence that any Spirits exist?"

How the Universe begun? "Michio Kaku - The Universe Shouldn't Exist", "by rights we should not be here":
https://youtu.be/esPXpagkVwY

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Message 62 of 89 (833291)
05-19-2018 10:39 AM
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Re: Re-Dark Matter
Sorry but again, that is not evidence. Even if we should not be here were true it is not evidence of any Spiritual thing or power.

Sorry, you really sound like a nice kid, but you need to learn some basics.


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Message 63 of 89 (833299)
05-19-2018 11:24 AM
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Re: Re-Dark Matter
You sound like: "Perhaps you are not adequate, your logic is false, imperfect. You need to learn basics."

Empty words. Just empty words. In fact there are two Gods among the people: Existing God, and Non-existing god. The Non-existing god is idol, thus it does not exist. It exists only as the main psychic problem of humankind. But because the world is bi-polar, the conflicts, lies and wars are here. Why the pink unicorn does very likely live under your bed? Because it is Non-existing god, which has many names, including "satan".

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Message 64 of 89 (833300)
05-19-2018 11:32 AM
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05-19-2018 11:24 AM


Re: Re-Dark Matter
LOL

Yet once again, where is there any evidence of any Spiritual beings or forces?


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Message 65 of 89 (833302)
05-19-2018 11:52 AM
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05-19-2018 11:32 AM


Re: Re-Dark Matter
- O.K. I am stupid, but do you have any evidence that any Spirits exist?

- How the Universe begun? "Michio Kaku - The Universe Shouldn't Exist", "by rights we should not be here,.... it is so frustrating, you wonna tear your hairs up":
https://www.christianforums.com/...ited-pink-unicorn.8064853


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Message 66 of 89 (833305)
05-19-2018 11:59 AM
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05-19-2018 11:52 AM


Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
Again, even we should not be here that is not evidence of any Spirits or Spiritual Forces.

Do you have any evidence that Spirits or any Spiritual Forces exist?


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Message 67 of 89 (833316)
05-19-2018 3:47 PM
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Re: Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
What is evidence? How it is different from Proof? Is testimony of eyewitness - evidence? Is Bible evidence? If not, then why other history books - historical evidence?
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Message 68 of 89 (833319)
05-19-2018 4:13 PM
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Re: Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
Astronomy writes:

Is testimony of eyewitness - evidence? Is Bible evidence? If not, then why other history books - historical evidence?

Testimony is the weakest of evidence. The Bible is also very, very, very, very weak evidence since it is anonymous, hearsay with contradictory versions and factual errors. Other history books, just like the Bible, need to be judged based on external supporting evidence.

In addition, the Bible would be no stronger evidence than any of the other Sacred Writings of all other religions.


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Message 69 of 89 (833324)
05-19-2018 9:50 PM
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Re: Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
So, if the Bible "extremely weak evidence", then the stronghood of Bible evidence is different from absolute zero? Therefore, the Bible is evidence. The Scientific evidence. Correct?
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Message 70 of 89 (833331)
05-20-2018 2:53 AM
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05-18-2018 11:03 AM


Re: Re-Dark Matter
But the math is correct. Something is required to keep the universe from flying apart.

Do you understand the role that dark matter (Not dark energy) plays in cosmology? Because your answers suggest that cannot even distinguish the two entities.

Hint: Dark energy does not play a role in keeping the universe from flying apart. If you care, just ask, and I will provide a reference that you won't be able to understand.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

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I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith

No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT


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Message 71 of 89 (833332)
05-20-2018 3:08 AM
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05-19-2018 9:50 PM


Re: Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
Astronomy writes:

So, if the Bible "extremely weak evidence", then the stronghood of Bible evidence is different from absolute zero? Therefore, the Bible is evidence. The Scientific evidence. Correct?

The bible is evidence that some unknown person or persons wrote some stories a long time ago. Virtually none of it is supported by any corroborating evidence. You also have to ask what it is evidence of?

Tell me, what do you think the Book of Mormon is evidence of?


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 72 of 89 (833340)
05-20-2018 6:48 AM
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Re: Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
Astronomy writes:

So, if the Bible "extremely weak evidence", then the stronghood of Bible evidence is different from absolute zero? Therefore, the Bible is evidence. The Scientific evidence. Correct?

It is certainly not Scientific Evidence.

It is evidence that certain stories were written.

BUT, it is also an anonymous source with only a very few exceptions.

It is primarily hearsay.

It is filled with inconsistencies, contradictions and factual errors.

Finally there is not even such a thing as "The Bible™" or one single universal list of what books should be included in "The Bible™"; rather the contents of The Bible varies from the smallest having only the first five books and the largest having over eighty books.

Even the Qur'an is more reliable evidence than any Bible. It has only a single know and verified by outside sources author.

But you still have not provided any evidence of any Spiritual beings or Spiritual Forces.

And the fact that you titled this topic Creation Science when such a thing is absolutely and totally impossible is just another indicator that you really have no clue what Science is.


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Message 73 of 89 (833357)
05-20-2018 10:47 AM
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05-19-2018 3:47 PM


Re: Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
Is Bible evidence? If not, then why other history books - historical evidence?

It goes to the nature of the claim. Actual historical studies attempt to separate the superstitions and beliefs of historical figures and cultures from the physical reality of their existence. Those who still hold to the superstitions of their ancestors attempt to conflate them.

It's kind of an honesty thing.


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Message 74 of 89 (833362)
05-20-2018 11:17 AM
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05-20-2018 6:48 AM


Re: Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
- Do you have any evidence that Spirits or any Spiritual Forces exist?

- What is evidence? How it is different from Proof? Is testimony of eyewitness - evidence? Is Bible evidence? If not, then why other history books - historical evidence?

- Testimony is the weakest of evidence. The Bible is also very, very, very, very weak evidence since it is anonymous, hearsay with contradictory versions and factual errors. Other history books, just like the Bible, need to be judged based on external supporting evidence.
In addition, the Bible would be no stronger evidence than any of the other Sacred Writings of all other religions.

- So, if the Bible "extremely weak evidence", then the stronghood of Bible evidence is different from absolute zero? Therefore, the Bible is evidence. The Scientific evidence. Correct?

- No. There are Spirits in Bible. Thus, any information in Bible is doubtful.

- Bible has total zero of historic and archeologic value?! No. You are just biased, it's satan's agenda.
So, Bible is not evidence of Spirits, because it is evidence of Spirits? How stupid atheism sounds?

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Message 75 of 89 (833364)
05-20-2018 11:24 AM
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Re: Spirits or Spiritual Forces.
In addition, the Bible would be no stronger evidence than any of the other Sacred Writings of all other religions.
So all gods shall be treated equal, eh?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
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