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jar
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Message 1576 of 1581 (840403)
09-28-2018 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1575 by Phat
09-28-2018 4:51 PM


Re: Yetzer Hara
Phat writes:

why do you consider yourself more Christian than Jewish?

What an utterly stupid question Phat.

I am a member of a recognized Christian Sect and not a Jew.

Phat writes:

Do you see any Jewish beliefs that you have internalized? How are they similar to your Christian beliefs? Is it all one religion to you?

What? Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all based on the same God character, the same set of stories, the same basic morality system. But they are distinct different religions.


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Message 1577 of 1581 (840426)
09-29-2018 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1576 by jar
09-28-2018 6:52 PM


Re: Yetzer Hara
jar writes:

Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all based on the same God character, the same set of stories, the same basic morality system.

The ongoing question which we may never find an anser to is whether our ideas and beliefs about said "God character" reflect in any way the actual GOD.

Does He care what we think and believe or only what we do? Does He(She,It) care about us any more than pond scum?

Will we ever know?

Does our obsession with needing to know how GOD thinks indicative of our own need to control things more than finding our Cosmic Daddy?


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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jar
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Message 1578 of 1581 (840428)
09-29-2018 12:22 PM
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09-29-2018 12:18 PM


Re: Yetzer Hara
Phat writes:

The ongoing question which we may never find an anser to is whether our ideas and beliefs about said "God character" reflect in any way the actual GOD.

Does He care what we think and believe or only what we do? Does He(She,It) care about us any more than pond scum?

Will we ever know?

Certainly not while we are still alive.

Phat writes:

Does our obsession with needing to know how GOD thinks indicative of our own need to control things more than finding our Cosmic Daddy?

Only those who have such needed need to even wonder about that. Most folk don't have such a need or fill it by creating and worshiping the God they imagine.


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Phat
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Message 1579 of 1581 (840431)
09-29-2018 12:34 PM
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09-29-2018 12:22 PM


Re: Yetzer Hara
jar writes:

Most folk don't have such a need or fill it by creating and worshiping the God they imagine.

I've often wondered how you label the Christian Culture of what you call "Willful Ignorance"...and this group appears to be quite large.

Among them are people whom I respect as being quite inciteful regarding their own personal beliefs and the rationale behind them.

You have always attempted to teach that there is no way that anyone can actually know what GOD thinks while we are alive. You have also dismissed most if not all of those who profess Christian apologetics.

Matt Dillahunty would agree with you to a large extent.

You seem to be ok with not knowing.

I agree that it is more about belief than knowledge. My belief insists upon a God Who cares. You seem to have no such need.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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jar
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Message 1580 of 1581 (840436)
09-29-2018 12:56 PM
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09-29-2018 12:34 PM


Re: Yetzer Hara
Phat writes:

You seem to be ok with not knowing.

Whether or not I am okay with not knowing really is irrelevant. Just as it's really irrelevant whether or not I am capable of jumping over the moon.

The issue is no one has ever explained how it might be possible to know anything about any supernatural thing or event.

Phat writes:

I agree that it is more about belief than knowledge. My belief insists upon a God Who cares. You seem to have no such need.

You still have it wrong Phat. My beliefs have no control over reality. It does not matter what I need or believe, I accept the reality that I cannot know.


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Phat
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Message 1581 of 1581 (840507)
10-01-2018 7:26 AM
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09-29-2018 12:56 PM


Re: Yetzer Hara
jar writes:

The issue is no one has ever explained how it might be possible to know anything about any supernatural thing or event.

So an angel appears to someone. (or a UFO, for that matter) and they are fully aware that they have experienced something unexplainable. They may well attribute it to a supernatural event,then..but can never know? See...I disagree with this idea that the atheists and you guys cling to that evidence is the only standard. Why can't experience count?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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