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ringo
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Message 16 of 144 (839394)
09-07-2018 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Faith
09-07-2018 4:14 PM


Re: Melania has guts
Faith writes:

Remarkable how a lie has become truth and evil has become good and tyranny has become democracy. and so on.


How is exposing Trump's lies and stupidity "tyranny"?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 17 of 144 (839395)
09-07-2018 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
09-07-2018 12:51 AM


Re: Melania has guts
Faith writes:

The problem is that a lot of people think what this anonymous insider is doing in "resisting" the President is acceptable these days. This is one big reason I think the world is about to come under a nightmare of a global political totalitarianism.

One way to avoid a nightmare of global political totalitarianism is for government officials to work against totalitarian dictators. I find it ironic that you think unquestioning sycophants are the best defense against totalitarianism.


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Message 18 of 144 (839396)
09-07-2018 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Faith
09-07-2018 3:58 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
Faith writes:

This idea that Facebook and Twitter are private businesses is just a big excuse. Like Google they are so huge they should be classed as public venues, and in that category they are suppressing free speech when they ban one guy out of bazillions who happened to have a big following and doesn't toe their party line.

The first amendment only protects people from the government punishing them for what they say.

Jones is free to start his own private business with his own servers that people can access. No one is stopping him.


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Faith
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Message 19 of 144 (839398)
09-07-2018 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by ringo
09-07-2018 4:20 PM


Re: Melania has guts
Only one point of view is allowed, though it's not yet total, only about 99% total so it can still be rationalized away. That's tyranny.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Faith
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Message 20 of 144 (839399)
09-07-2018 4:34 PM
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09-07-2018 4:26 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
The cleverness is astonishing.
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ringo
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Message 21 of 144 (839400)
09-07-2018 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Faith
09-07-2018 4:32 PM


Re: Melania has guts
Faith writes:

Only one point of view is allowed....


How so? Anybody with any point of view is allowed to expose Trump's stupidity and lies. Including people who work for him.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Taq
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Message 22 of 144 (839402)
09-07-2018 4:52 PM
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09-07-2018 4:34 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
Faith writes:

The cleverness is astonishing.

Do you really think that blind obedience to a political leader is the best way to avoid totalitarianism?


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Message 23 of 144 (839403)
09-07-2018 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Faith
09-07-2018 4:32 PM


Re: Melania has guts
Faith writes:

Only one point of view is allowed, though it's not yet total, only about 99% total so it can still be rationalized away. That's tyranny.

No one is stopping people from voicing their opinions. What you need to remember is if you use someone else's platforms to get your message out then you are beholden to the people who own that platform. If you don't like their rules then create your own platform. It isn't that hard to figure out.

Do you really think you have the right to tell companies which videos they have to play?


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Faith
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Message 24 of 144 (839404)
09-07-2018 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Taq
09-07-2018 4:52 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
It's funny how simply getting a word in edgewise has become nearly impossible in this time of a blanketing of all the media with anti-Trump messages, and an anonymous "resister" is applauded, all in an obvious attempt at a coup engineered by a bunch of a conspirators out of view who have power with the media, and of course it's the drowned-out voices that are accused of promoting blind obedience? This is so clever I'm in awe.
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Taq
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Message 25 of 144 (839408)
09-07-2018 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Faith
09-07-2018 5:01 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
Faith writes:

It's funny how simply getting a word in edgewise has become nearly impossible in this time of a blanketing of all the media with anti-Trump messages, and an anonymous "resister" is applauded, all in an obvious attempt at a coup engineered by a bunch of a conspirators out of view who have power with the media, and of course it's the drowned-out voices that are accused of promoting blind obedience? This is so clever I'm in awe.

Has it ever crossed your mind that there is all this criticism of Trump because he is a bad president?


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Faith
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Message 26 of 144 (839409)
09-07-2018 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Taq
09-07-2018 5:55 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
Has it ever crossed your mind that there is all this criticism of Trump because he is a bad president?

Gosh NO!. Golly what a revelation. The point is half the country voted for the man and still support him and we NEVER hear from THEM on the in-your-face media.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 27 of 144 (839412)
09-07-2018 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Faith
09-07-2018 6:23 PM


Re: voters for Trump
The point is half the country voted for the man and still support him and we NEVER hear from THEM on the in-your-face media.

But not even half the voters that actually voted in 2016 voted for him.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/...ates_presidential_election,_2016 for the details.

Summary:


Trump Clinton
Popular vote 62,984,828 65,853,514
Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

eligible turnout percent
2016 250,056,000 (estimated) 138,847,000 (estimated) 55.5% (estimated)


So 62,984,828 / 250,056,00 is about 25.19% of the eligible voters, not close to "half" as you claimed.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Tanypteryx
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Message 28 of 144 (839414)
09-07-2018 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Faith
09-07-2018 5:01 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
Faith writes:

getting a word in edgewise has become nearly impossible in this time of a blanketing of all the media with anti-Trump messages

Apparently you don't watch "all the media" because one whole network does nothing but lie about how wonderful Trump is and most of the other networks show Trump at all of his rallies and whenever he speaks publicly. He has no trouble getting all his words in edgewise. Most of his words are whining about how everyone is mean and unfair to him, boo hoo.

Faith writes:

and an anonymous "resister" is applauded

Maybe you should watch some news. Can you quote someone applauding the anonymous resistor?

What I have seen is criticism from the right and the left, obviously for different reasons. The right hates any one of Trump's "best people" revealing the truth about the con man in the Whitehouse. The left hates that this asshole is complicit with the treason and corruption of Trump and his criminal mob.

Have you noticed how many of the "best, wonderful, special people" appointed by Trump that have quit or been fired? More than any other administration in history. Trump is really terrible at judging character and almost everyone he has appointed is incompetent and corrupt.

Aren't you at all surprised that Trump knows this many people who have shady connections to Russia? With the former head of the KGB?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Faith
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Message 29 of 144 (839416)
09-07-2018 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Tanypteryx
09-07-2018 7:34 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
True, I usually don't go out of my way to watch any news source these days, I'm talking about the "in-your-face" media reports that I have no way of avoiding, They are there every time I open Yahoo to check my email, or if I happen on a network news program, not by trying I assure you, there they are with their nonstop Trump bashing.
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Message 30 of 144 (839480)
09-08-2018 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Faith
09-07-2018 4:14 PM


I realize this response is predictable, but...
Remarkable how a lie has become truth and evil has become good and tyranny has become democracy. and so on.

Funny enough, that's pretty much what I think...every time I read what Trump and his spokespersons are saying right now.


We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. -- John McCain

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