YHWH, Yahweh, Jehovah, adonai, lord, elohim, god, allah, Allah thread.

The fact is that you are repeating anti-Islamic propaganda. Another fact is that you have not bothered to investigate other sources or the counter-arguments. You don't even consider the inconsistencies in your own, single source (didn't you notive that it identified Allah as a title as well as a name ?)So the truth is that you are passing off claims that are almost certainly false as "facts".Why do you do that ? Well the obvious answer is that you DO hate Muslims.

El is indeed a name applied to God, in the Bible.YOu don't cite any sources - probably because this idea is your own invention.Try this
Bible Search and Study Tools - Blue Letter Bible
"El is another name that is translated as "God" and can be used in conjunction with other words to designate various aspects of God's character"Bible Study – Christian Education Resource
"El is used over 200 times as a Name for God...."http://bibletools.org/...ibrary.showResource/CT/RA/k/367.htm
"Nevertheless, God is called El in Genesis 14:20 and in many other places."All three sources are Christian. All three disagree with you - and I can easily find more.So where is the support for your assertions ?

Since you've done your research you can answer this one easily.According to Muhammads story of how the Quran was written, who appeared to him and told him to "Recite" ?

True, I originally intended to agree - but then decided that that might confuse things.

I notice that you rely on reading the English translation into the Hebrew - of one verse.I on the other hand pointed to three Christian sources, all of which acknowledged that El was a name of God - based on a reading of many verses. And that you have not answered.It is clear just who is reluctant to learn - just as was the case in the Isaiah thread where you were unable to comprehend how any one could prefer a coherent reading of the text over the mess you concocted to back up your preconceived ideas.Oh, and perhaps you can give me a source for your claim that Muslims have a problem wuth "Yahweh" - or at least a greater problem than the Jews who refuse to say it (or write it, excpet under special conditions) and some of whom even write "God" as "G-d".[This message has been edited by PaulK, 10-06-2003]

Well I'll just point out - again - that translation is not exact. So relying on a translation for the sort of conclusion you want to reach is a poor argument. That you are relying on a single verse. That Bible scholars disagree wtih you - and you won't even discuss their findings.So, I have no problem topping your argument.And where is the support for your assertion that Muslims have a "problem" with the name "Jehovah" ?You are right about one thing - it is futile for you to keep insisting that you must be correct in the face of the evidence. So yes, go and run away because you can't admit that you are wrong - just as you did in the Isaiah thread.[This message has been edited by PaulK, 10-07-2003]

Well, so you know the story - or more likely looked it up.So Muhammand had a vision of the Angel Gabriel (there's that "El" again!). Consider the implications of that. Pretty much demolishes your claims doesn't it ?

Well I guess that now Buzsaw is happy that "Allah" is just the Arabic equivalent of "God" so I think we can declare the whole "Moon God" business quite thoroughly dead.

Exactly my point. Muhammad was not preaching worship of a pagan God

I guess you've managed to forget that even your own sources don't even agree that "Allah" is a name, rather than a title.And the fact that the Quran was - according to Muhammad and Islam - announced by Gabriel is strong confirmation of the Judeo-Christian links.The evidence is against you.

What Andya said is :"'Allah' in literal Arabic is translated as just 'God'. Not a specific name like Andya or John or buz"So Andya did NOT confirm your assertion that "Allah" is a proper name. He explicitly denied it.

So that's your explanation for completely reversing the meaning of what Andya said ? You "forgot" what he said ? Didn't you look it up ?And of course "Allah" does not mean the same as "YHWH" - it means the same as "God". Which English speaking Jews and Christians use just as Arabic speaking Christians use "Allah".

Oh it's quite simple really. This thread is all about Buzsaw repeating ant-Islamic propaganda claimign that Allau is "really" a pagan moon-godwith no connection to the Christian deity, while I (and others) point out the facts...

Sorry Buz, but showing that a point is irrelevant is not evading it. Allah is not a name it is the Arabic equivalent of God. So unless you want to say tht everyone who talks about "God" doesn't follow the God of the Bible (and that includes you) then you don't have a point.

As I said you misrepresented a post claiming that it said the exact o