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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Or are you pulling them out of thin air. I am an atheist but the vast majority of people I know are christians. The vast majority of them believe in evolution. I find believers in ID or creationism are in a minority. Even among christians.
Maybe they are not christian enough for you?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Did you know that there are many creationists who do not have a religion or specific belief in any God? OK please try to explain this one? How can a person believe in a creation myth if they don't believe in a creator. It seems you would need some real logical dancing around to get this idea to work out. Examples of these creationists that don't believe in a god would be some good evidence for you to provide.
The Creation Model is seen a theistic model (even though not all creationists believe in a personal God) because it requires a God or Designer/Creator able to create the whole cosmos Aren't you contradicting your first sentence? How can you reconcile both these comments? Personal god or not, creationists have a belief in a god.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
There are plenty of active threads for you to spout your creationist mumbo-jumbo. I think you have already been told in another thread to move your comments to appropriate threads. Please move your comments to appropriate threads. I will happily debate you, but in the threads that the comments belong.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
This is a science forum.
Provide evidence and proof for your assertions. Just saying something doesn't make it so. BTW. The term creation science is an oxymoron. Keep moving people, no science here to see.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Now you are just making ridiculous statements.
You are the one making unproven statements claiming that evolution is a science and creation is not. Again, I ask you to back up your assertions. Show us how evolution is not science.
Neither theory can be considered a true science since we cannot repeat how life began. Before you make wild ass statements(that have been thoroughly debunked here many times), maybe you should actually understand what TOE says. The Theory of Evolution says absolutely nothing about the creation of life. It is a completely separate matter. 1. All life forms (species) have developed from other species. 2. All living things are related to one another to varying degrees through common decent (share common ancestors). 3. All life on Earth has a common origin. In other words, that in the distant past, there once existed an original life form and that this life form gave rise to all subsequent life forms. 4. The process by which one species evolves into another involves random heritable genetic mutations (changes), some of which are more likely to spread and persist in a gene pool than others. Mutations that result in a survival advantage for organisms that possess them, are more likely to spread and persist than mutations that do not result in a survival advantage and/or that result in a survival disadvantage. Here are some other links that might help you.
Logical Fallacies A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers. One scientist cannot create a theory; he can only create a hypothesis. If you want to discuss micro/macro. Please point out why you assume there is some big difference between them. Again, this is a science thread. You need to provide some sort of evidence for your assertions.Here are a couple links that might get you up to speed. Edited by Theodoric, : added signature Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
So you can not back up any of your statements so you are going to run away?
Show us any evidence to back your statements. Any!! Edited by Theodoric, : spelling Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
I am not talking about origins, either. Yes you are.
Neither theory can be considered a true science since we cannot repeat how life began. macroevolutionary model presuppose how origins might have begun
What? How does TOE posit anything about how life began? Do you know anything about micro vs. macro evolution? Or is this just a creationist talking point you picked up? Again I will ask one more time. Please provide evidence for your comments and assertions. I know you won't. I would like to say it has been nice debating you, but since you provide no evidence to back up your statements it isn't really a debate; is it. So I won't bother responding to you again. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
I am just trying to get him to understand that he needs to back up his assertions with evidence. Not just creationist mumbo-jumbo.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
I know it is early yet, but great post. As soon as the admins post the march POTM thread this gets a nomination.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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