What we must accept if we accept evolution

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To presume the mind is physical without evidence that it is so is a philosphical decision to which we are all entitled. I just don't share this philosophy

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You have this the wrong way round.Why should we assume a non-physical mind when the brain has been so clearly demonstrated to have a very marked cause and effect influence on perception and behavior?Ever heard of Phineas Gage?

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Men don't have minds; they just have brains (thus saith evolution).

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Where did you get this idea?

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According to evolutionists, and supporters of scientific research, there was no "before" to evolution.
I was just implying that evolution and materialism in human society go hand in hand.

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What edge was referring to was not evolution itself, but the idea of evolution as proposed a couple hundred years ago.His point was that people were materialistic (accumulation of wealth) long before people even had the barest inkling regarding what we now refer to as biological evolution.Please be careful that you are not mixing up the definitions for "philosophical materialism" (all there is is nature) and being "materialistic" (placing a high value upon material goods)

The ToE in no way claims that the mind doesn't exist.

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I'm saying the theory of evolution logically includes materialism. At one time in the history of earth, there were no "minds." Consciousness evolved. If minds are incorporeal, then one day in the history of evolution, corporeality produced incorporeality. That seems impossible.

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Mind is produced by the brain.Why is that "impossible"?

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Thinking is not synonymous with the activity of neurons no matter how consistently that activity can be found accompanying thinking.

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Can you give a specific example of an instance where "thinking" has been observed to occur without neuronal activity?That is, is there any rational reason to conclude that "thinking" is possible without neuronal activity?

Can you show us what is involved with thinking other than neuronal activity?

I have read the thread.Perhaps you would like to apologize for being so snotty?

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Egotism is a personal view about oneself.

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...which can manifest as a feeling of superiority because of one's membership in a group. You mentioned several groups:people who are intelligent, people who are physically attractive, people who have a lot of political power, people who have a lot of wealth, etc.How is the feeling of superiority one has about oneself being one of God's chosen people not egotistical just because it stems from inclusion in a group?"I feel so special and superior and chosen because I am a Born Again christian, so I'm going to go to Heaven no matter what and all of these other heathens who aren't born again are going to burn in Hell."

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But I do find it very strange that my great-to-the-nth grandfather was a lizard, large or small. That's the part I find mind-boggling.

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Yeah, it is pretty amazing, huh?But how is this important?

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I'm defining nature as everything physical. Anything that is not physical, if it existed, would be other than nature. Nature can't produce anything except physical things. So the incorporeal is supernatural--meaning "other than natural."

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So, according to you, the number five is supernatural?

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In my view, if I were a believer, that would be blasphemy.

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That depends upon the interpretation of the Bible you choose to use, though, doesn't it?Since there's no "correct" interpretation, the above statment is just as valid as your, or another Christian's view that it is blasphemous.

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A major tenet of the faith is that it is GIVEN to us for NO merit of our own.

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That's one of many interpretations.Since there's no such thing as a "correct" interpretation of the Bible, all interpretations are equally valid.