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Buzsaw
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Message 16 of 20 (93449)
03-19-2004 10:02 PM


Is it my fault that Islam has risen to the focus of so much attention on the world scene? Is it only Christianity that is subject to negative comment? Are Christians as we speak being persecuted and killed by Islam fundamentalist regimes in nations like the Sudan? Are we compelled to silence as this holocaust rages while we post??
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Message 17 of 20 (93454)
03-19-2004 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
03-19-2004 9:43 PM


Re: Enough all ready
Buz, I do believe that I HAVE stuck up for Xians from ppl just bashing them to bash them. I believe that this is one of the reasons AdMoose offered me this illustrious position.
I am not saying a word about your two choices...if I were naming names for this poll, I would probably have chosen the same ones. My issue is with statements such as these...
Mohammed, ... personally oversaw the shedding of blood for the propagation of his religion in order that Islam would become the exclusive religion at Mecca and eventually worldwide. ... desciples all were very brutal and forced those who wanted out of Islam to remain or die. ..... fundamentalistic Islam via Jihad and terror as taught in the Quran, the Sunnas and the Hadiths.


Are Christians as we speak being persecuted and killed by Islam fundamentalist regimes in nations like the Sudan? Are we compelled to silence as this holocaust rages while we post??
Your overlooking of violence and bloodshed done in the name of Xianity while harping on every transgression done by someone in the name of Islam is becoming sickening. I'm not going to get into a discussion of you double standard here. You have been called on this by others and I don't want it to become the focus of every topic you end up in.
Tell you what...when you see someone making the claims against Xianity that you do against Islam...you let me know...in case I missed it.

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Buzsaw
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Message 18 of 20 (93456)
03-19-2004 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by AdminAsgara
03-19-2004 10:17 PM


Re: Enough all ready
Your overlooking of violence and bloodshed done in the name of Xianity while harping on every transgression done by someone in the name of Islam is becoming sickening.
I've never ever overlooked the bloodshed done in the name of Christianity, Asgara. I've always met it head on, showing positively that it was done contrary to the teaching of Christ and his apostles. I've never ever denied that it took place. It was the true Christians who were killed as well as others by the bloody so called Christian inquisitioner bishops and popes of Vatican City. The topic is about specific individuals, is it not? Why then should I have mentioned the popes of Vatican City when Jesus and Mohammed topped them as individual subjects appropriate to the thread title?
Maybe it's "sickening" to you because it truely is sickening. It sickens me to have to talk about it, but sometimes the truth is sickening. Believe me, I do not enjoy it, but does anyone else in town really care enough to speak up? If it were another Jewish holocaust, in the Sudan, would anyone care? I duno, but I do care about my Christian black brothers and sisters in Islamic fundie regimes who are being brutally tortured and being sold in the flourishing slave market in Islamic Northern Sudan. I care enough to risk the possibility that an Islamic devout will show up at my doorstep and blow me away for telling the truth.
I'm not going to get into a discussion of you double standard here. You have been called on this by others and I don't want it to become the focus of every topic you end up in.
I've brought up the subject only when appropriate. Please be specific and cite where it was inappropriate and we'll talk about it, if you care to open a thread to that effect.
Tell you what...when you see someone making the claims against Xianity that you do against Islam...you let me know...in case I missed it.
That's really silly isn't it, madear? How can they make claims against the true followers of Jesus and the apostles when people like Falwell, Robertson, James Kennedy and others do and teach no violence such as some of the Sunnas, the Hadiths and yes, the Quran advocate??
Did you read my late post on the Islamic fundie thread where I documented about Islamic Jihad? If so, do you care to count the times the word "fight" was quoted from the Quran and the Sunnas in the link by this Islamic author?
Besides, I've never called for censorship of my Christian bashing cyber counterpart friends. Let them! They're fulfilling Biblical prophecy, bless their deluded hearts! The truth silences them soundly without the need for censorship.
By the same token, if my Islam bashing is false, let them go at me with the truth!! They do the best they can with what they've got, which imo, isn't much.
Btw, Christ is not spelled "X". If I used the term "Xlam" or referred to the prophet Mohammed as something like the Xet Mr. X you'd have no problem, Asgara, or would all you nice people then begin giving the Christian messiah/lord due respect to teach me some respect in how to refer to the deities of others??
Hey, call us what you want. I can handle it and anything you all come out with, but please don't come at me for negative truth I post about others.

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Silent H
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Message 19 of 20 (93464)
03-20-2004 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Buzsaw
03-19-2004 11:13 PM


quote:
Did you read my late post on the Islamic fundie thread where I documented about Islamic Jihad? If so, do you care to count the times the word "fight" was quoted from the Quran and the Sunnas in the link by this Islamic author?
I did and then showed how much of a liar you were, using your own source none the less.
You have yet to show more than one passage, taken out of context, as evidence the Quran itself teaches persecution, or address the numerous passages which clearly state otherwise.
As far as treating the sunnas as equal or superior to the Quran, it has been stated and shown that not all Islamic denominations believe or practice that... again, including the source you posted a link from.
You are a liar, and a bigot, with apparently no respect for the rules of your faith, even if overjoyed with some of its bloodier prophecies... which leaves you a hypocrite as well.
quote:
Btw, Christ is not spelled "X". If I used the term "Xlam"...
Xian is shorthand, like oh say... Btw? Should people fly off the handle for your maltreatment of the words by, the, and way?
Not sure why you'd choose Xlam since it has no precedent, or grammatical sense. Not to mention that Islam is pretty damn short. But if you come up with a handy abbreviation for Islam, or even better Muhammed (mr M?) you'd find me using it just as much as Xian.
quote:
please don't come at me for negative truth I post about others.
People have every right to come at you for you lies, even if you choose to spin the situation by calling them "negative truths".

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Message 20 of 20 (93467)
03-20-2004 1:04 AM


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