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Author Topic:   The wonder of science vs. the banality of creation
subbie
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Message 38 of 64 (503874)
03-23-2009 12:01 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Sky-Writing
03-22-2009 6:03 PM


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The founders of modern science were believers in God.
Muslim or Christian, it didn't cause them any harm
or interfere with their accomplishments.
Only because their search for truth didn't end with the back cover of whatever sacred text they followed. This, of course, is what distinguishes them from cdesign proponentsists of various flavors.

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 56 of 64 (503919)
03-23-2009 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Sky-Writing
03-23-2009 11:38 AM


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Yet that's exactly what they were, Intelligent Design proponents of various flavors.
Only someone totally ignorant of the mind set and practices of current cdesign proponentsists could make the claim that they bear any relation whatsoever to someone like Galileo.
Cdesign proponentsists start with the assumption that the bible is accurate, then look for ways to warp the evidence to fit within that assumption. Galileo looked at the evidence and came to conclusions in direct contradiction with with bible. They are polar opposites.

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 59 of 64 (503923)
03-23-2009 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Dr Adequate
03-23-2009 1:33 PM


What's more, there are over 1,000 scientists named Steve who agree with this statement:
Evolution is a vital, well-supported, unifying principle of the biological sciences, and the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of the idea that all living things share a common ancestry. Although there are legitimate debates about the patterns and processes of evolution, there is no serious scientific doubt that evolution occurred or that natural selection is a major mechanism in its occurrence. It is scientifically inappropriate and pedagogically irresponsible for creationist pseudoscience, including but not limited to "intelligent design," to be introduced into the science curricula of our nation's public schools.
None of them are cdesign proponentsists, either. If around 1 in a hundred scientists are named Steve, Project Steve suggests that over 10,000 scientists feel the same way. Of course, we all know that none of these guys know anywhere near as much about 21st Century science as the "founders of modern science" (whoever they are) did.

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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