Universe Race

Responding to this message is against my better judgment. For a moment, just shut up and try to read what I have to say and then try to think it through before you respond.Imagine a balloon. The surface area of the 2 dimensional surface of the balloon represents space. As the balloon inflates, the surface area of the balloon increases. Now, if you are only confined to the 2 dimensional surface of the balloon, where is the center? There is no center. But if you are to stand on any point of the balloon, it would seem that every other point on the balloon is moving away from you.At this point, I know you are tempted to say that the center of the balloon is actually the 3rd dimensional space inside the balloon. But remember that you are not allowed to leave the 2 dimensional surface of the balloon.If you were go back in time, you would see the surface area of the balloon decrease until right before it reaches infinitesimally small.Now, try to apply that to 3 dimensional space. There is no center of the 3 dimensional universe just like there is no center on the 2 dimensional surface of the balloon. We are 3 dimensional creatures, so we are confined to referring everything to the 3 dimensional space that we know. But for just a moment, try to think of it from this perspective. There is no center of the 3 dimensional universe that we can observe just like there is no center of the 2 dimensional surface of the balloon.I highly recommend you go to your local library and pick up the book Flatland by Edwin A. Abbott. Try to read it with an open mind. It will greatly explain to you why it is so difficult for 3 dimensional beings like ourselves to think outside the box.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Uhhh, I don't know what planet you're living on, but this isn't the reason why Fritz Zwicky proposed the existence of dark matter. Right, and believing in a god that watches you when you masturbate isn't blind faith? Apparently, you haven't gone past the 80's yet. Because in the 90's, they've observed that the universe really is literally flying apart, at an accelerated speed mind you. I'm sorry, I didn't know you were such a prominent physicist. Mind giving us the math behind this fantasy of yours?

I think I know why you are confused. Most lay people think matter is solid in the conventional sense. When you are talking about very dense matter like neutron stars and singularities, it helps to stop thinking of them in the conventional sense. The table that holds up your computer isn't really solid. In fact, without even mentioning the subatomic world, most of an atom is just empty space. When I say most, I mean like 99% of it is empty space. Things are not as solid as they seem.Personally, I'd like to have a little piece of neutron in my collection before I die of old age.

Ask yourself this question. What do you get when you minus infinity by 1? How about by 10? How about by 10000? How about by 10000000000? How about by 100000000000000000000?

Uh, you responded to the wrong post.I'm trying to get you to understand the concept of infinity and approaching infinity.

Ok, let's give this another try.Suppose we have a balloon that is already inflated. On the surface of the balloon there are hundreds of ants crawling around. The surface area of the balloon increases as the balloon itself continues to inflates. The general distances between the ants increase over time as the balloon continues to inflates. However, some ants will inevitably bump into each other.Added by edit.Small ants represent stars. Big ants represent galaxies. And if you want to get more specific, the parasites that reside on the ants represent planets and asteroids, and other planetary bodies. Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

We always have to remember that the surface of the balloon represents space itself, not space and matter. Although I did get a laugh out of imagining a bunch of ants crawling around on the surface of a balloon.

As a thought experiment with my buddies back in the old days, we decided that the only conceivable way we could save the universe from flying apart and become a cold almost empty place is through time travel. We could start sending back in time stars... whole galaxies and whole clusters. Not too much, though. Just enough to create a balance between gravity and the universal expansion and eventually create a static universe. In such a universe, we would have untold trillions of years to come up with a way to deal with the eventual heat death.

Yeah, and good luck trying to get the public to swallow that model

Noone knows. Experts are not all knowing. There are limits to our knowledge.The more important point is I can already see you inserting god in this gap already. Go ahead. Noone will stop you.Added by edit.Is there really a point to asking questions you know noone could answer other than to look for a place to insert your god of the gaps?Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Just a nitpick. Things don't "escape" from a black hole in the sense that we tend to think of when we think of "escape".

God said "Let there be protons!" and there was protons and there was much rejoice.

Ok, "dude", the bible not only says the Earth is round, it specifically says the Earth is a circle in isaiah 40:22.Before you start saying "circle and sphere is the same thing" like I've heard so many christians try to rationalize this, give me an example of a 3 dimensional circle and I'll give you 50 cents.Added by edit.I, too, got a really good laugh out of the fact that that joke flew right over your head.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Let me guess, the judeo-christian god is the one true god?Don't get me wrong. We embrace people's ability to think for themselves. What annoy us are people who repeatedly make up crackpot "theories" to explain the world. Anyone with a decent background in science can disprove these theories right off the bat, but the problem is that the audience also need to have some kind of background in science in order to understand the refutation. And I'm sorry to say this but most people I've talked to haven't got a clue what's head and what's tail in these matters.