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cavediver Member (Idle past 3671 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Hi Kinetic, welcome to EvC
according to Einstein space bends around planetary bodies. Does this influence parallax distance calculations Not practically. If you were daft enough to take the position of star by viewing along a line of sight that grazed the Sun, then you would get an error because of the warped space-time around the Sun. The observed position of galaxies is often distorted by intervening galaxies (look up gravitational lensing), but unless your parallax base-line is the diameter of our Galaxy or bigger, the error is going to be the same for both positon measurements, so shouldn't affect things too much.
How accurate can you measure distance? We used to joke that for in-Galaxy distances, within a factor of 2 was good, and for anything else, getting the right order of magnitude was an achievement! Even back then, it was never that bad. Now things are substantially better. I'm sure you could look up some figures, but I guess in-Galaxy distances will be 1-10% error depending on distance, direction and intervening material; local group around 10%, getting steadily worse the further we go out. Much depends on our "standard candles" and there has been some dispute over their reliability recently, so maybe incresaing error bounds to 30%? I'm guessing here. As our ability to use parallax grows (have a baseline from here to Neptune's orbit, say) our accuracy will incraese dramatically. Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.
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zcoder Member (Idle past 6236 days) Posts: 66 Joined: |
Can I ask something? something that I really need to know?
But first, let me remind everyone that the topic was "how light from stars further away than 5 or 6 thousand light years came to exist" So now the question, where in the bible does it say the earth is only5 or 6 thousand years old or younger? Zcoder....
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
zcoder writes: ...where in the bible does it say the earth is only5 or 6 thousand years old or younger? It's calculated from the genealogies in Genesis. If you take the begats seriously, the earth can only be about 6000 years old. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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zcoder Member (Idle past 6236 days) Posts: 66 Joined: |
Thats pure speculation, and infact there is a big gap
from Genesis. to Exodus. and no time was given in Genesis as to when all those events took place, from when God created man, or the world. and Genesis is full of gaps in it's self. So I am still confused. I myself don't buy into that age calculated earth fromGenesis theory. Zcoder....
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
zcoder writes: I myself don't buy into that age calculated earth from Genesis theory. You don't have to buy it. It's not for sale - it's what the Bible says. There are appropriate topics to discuss that topic - not here. Edited by Ringo, : Capitalization. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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zcoder Member (Idle past 6236 days) Posts: 66 Joined: |
anyways, stars came about becouse of a big bang ect.
you know the story, but how or who started it is another question. I don't think it started by its self, if it did then the next time I am at home, and there is only me and one of my kids there, and I askhim who spilled this class of milk, and he says I don't know I should believe him. Cool, my son will love this one. Zcoder....
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Taz Member (Idle past 3319 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
I'm dying to know. What country are you from? What language(s) beside English do you speak? Do you have any religious affiliation? Answering these questions would greatly help me figure out something about you that I've been wondering about for the last couple days.
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zcoder Member (Idle past 6236 days) Posts: 66 Joined: |
religious affiliation? I guess I can say it's christian.
My other languages? assembly, C, C++, Fortran, Basic. and few others. Zcoder....
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Taz Member (Idle past 3319 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
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Am I correct to assume that {
}you were born in the United States of America;
}and that you spoke and wrote in English all your life?; Edited by Tazmanian Devil, : No reason given.
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zcoder Member (Idle past 6236 days) Posts: 66 Joined: |
I don't Get the connection to my personal info in relation to
my beliefs. Zcoder....
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Taz Member (Idle past 3319 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
zcoder writes:
In all honesty, I am just confused. You claim to have been an engineer and programmer in your life. You claim to have at least a son. You seem to have implied that you're a natural born English speaker. All of these claims point to someone that should have at least a technical grasp of the English language AS WELL AS some technical knowledge of basic science.
I don't Get the connection to my personal info in relation tomy beliefs. What confuses me is that your spellings are consistently terrible. Its not like missing an apostrophe like the first word in this sentence. You are consistently misspelling words, writing long run-on sentences, and not being able to interpret properly what others say on here. What confuses me even more is your apparent total lack of understanding of the most basic concepts in science. Now, if I have stumbled onto some sort of condition or that English isn't really your first language, then I apologize. But for now, to me at least, your posts do not resemble that of an engineer veteran and programmer. The gods help you if you write the same way on your resume and cover letters. And rest assured that I am not questioning your beliefs. I am questioning some of your claims.
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zcoder Member (Idle past 6236 days) Posts: 66 Joined: |
And you have all those rights to do so.
I have no degree in english nore in a true science. electron theory and Ohm's law along with scientific notation ect. I think you must think I am suppose to be a beauty queen?also I am sure the posts I make bug you in my style and maybe my content too as well. but I was not applying for a job either. nore do I put any professional touch on forum posts as if I was writting a book? also you can attack my spelling, grammar, and anything else you wishto do, and I still will respect you. Judge as you wish, but what nationality I am is not your concern. Zcoder....
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
zcoder writes: nore do I put any professional touch on forum posts as if I was writting a book? Please do. As it stands, your posts are about 95% incomprehensible. Anything worth doing is worth doing well. Please put a lot more effort into expressing yourself clearly. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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zcoder Member (Idle past 6236 days) Posts: 66 Joined: |
Look who's talking. I now take all this as very personal and find
that I no longer can post on this forum. As I now believe that evolutionists to be under handed, hateful, dishonestafraid of challenge as well as a group of people who try to silence others who have different views. You showed me more about this group then I could have known otherwise.your just the things I read about, but I had an open mind and gave you your shot to prove it wrong, but you lived upto and beyond your reputation. I think it is becouse of the lack of god with in you. Thanks for the lesson. Zcoder....
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2541 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
As I now believe that evolutionists to be under handed, hateful, dishonest afraid of challenge as well as a group of people who try to silence others who have different views. you are quite wrong on this account, Z. I love a challenge, and I am not dishonest, under handed, or hateful (to the best of my ability). There are very few here on EvC who are. We don't silence those who believe differently from us. We ask questions, and when people make erroneous statements (like 2 + 2 = 5), we try to correct their understanding. You have misunderstood a whole group of people. Try not to do that again.
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