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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
PS If you do reply please try to be clear you are not playing games, if you expect any real answer from me.
I am stil waiting patiently for an answer to all three of my little concerns that create sever problems for your version of the concept. I also look for a response on the Hindu Model, which does not have the problems I have outlined with your version. enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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quote:I think the idea was that the light that was there to start with was not what we would call normal. What we see now is the affected bit.
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quote:That was just a number we used but I could come up with some. 12 months, 12 deciples, etc.
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[quote]light would be shifted out of the visible range ... physical light we have now. What about the spirit plane light? Would that obey our light spectrum ways? Since it is not here now, that might be hard to say. Some christian science folks have questioned the distant redshift interpretation. What if everything got shifted from the previous mix, so it ended up the way it is? Since we don't know much ag=bout either the other light, or the process of seperation, how could we say???! What we could say was the time would be very different.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, as you seem to know a lot about cosmology. no more than a standard education should give one interested in learning about "life, the universe, and everything" to quote D. Adams unencumbered. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
But at the same time the general flavor of your posts strikes me as sarcastic, and a sort of junior high type of fogginess, and tounge in cheek -would be cleverness, written more for a giggling friend than who it is posted for.
How could you get that impression when I keep asking you questions about serious problems with your concepts and you are the one avoiding the anwers with hand waving and epicycles of flavours on top of processes undefined. the fogginess is all in your bank, and it's your turn to show some cash. Or try contesting the Hindu Model ...no problems with that one has been presented yet. enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
By the way I'm closing the thread very soon, from my point anyhow What, leave without answering the problems that have shot holes in the concept from the start and are still unresolved? Allow me to recap (again) where we stand on your concept ("AC"), while also making reference to the superior Hindu Model ("HM") and how it solves the problems -- there are testable differences in what they predict:
Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
so if anyone can really shoot the concept down, fine. If not, thanks for the imput. Your concept is the black night of the holy grail monty python movie and again for reference testable differences in versions:
Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
physical light we have now. What about the spirit plane light?
If there is no detectable difference it must obey the same rules as all other light, including the same problems with the age horizon process flavour modulation. If there is a detectable difference then what is it? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Would that obey our light spectrum ways?
One would expect it to if it was light. again -- is there a detectable difference or no difference? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Since it is not here now, that might be hard to say.
well why bring it up then? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Some christian science folks have questioned the distant redshift interpretation.
correction: some christian folks have questioned ... OR some scientists have questioned ... if the questioning is based on a presupposition of faith it is not scientific if the questioning is based on science the faith is irrelevant (it could be Hindu ...) and we haven't yet discussed what the horizon process would do with red shift levels ... got any ideas? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
What if everything got shifted from the previous mix, so it ended up the way it is?
previous mix? is this another wrinkle in the epicycle game? do you mean before the separation when the speed of light was instantaneous? instantaneous light cannot red shift, mathematically impossible. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Since we don't know much ag=bout either the other light, or the process of seperation, how could we say???
Hardly a basis for science if you don't even have observations to base your concepts on. Looks like you need to do some work. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
What we could say was the time would be very different. logic failure ... logic failure ... undistributed conclusion we could as easily say that time is green, for it is not based on any part of any preceeding argument. I suggest a remedial course in basic logic (assuming you have had a course in logic ... ) enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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