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Message 841 of 876 (842306)
10-29-2018 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 840 by ringo
10-28-2018 2:10 PM


Re: Confusing
I know what science claims to know. I know why. As for being more informed than thousands of little clueless big mouthed worldy wise men...heck, a kindergarten kid could do that! The wisdom of this world is literally absolute screaming foolishness next to the wisdom of God.
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Message 842 of 876 (842314)
10-29-2018 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 841 by creation
10-29-2018 10:44 AM


Re: Confusing
creation writes:

I know what science claims to know.


No you don't. Everything you post shows that you're completely clueless. If you knew anything at all about science you'd be able to discuss these topics intelligently instead of just spewing childish insults.

creation writes:

As for being more informed than thousands of little clueless big mouthed worldy wise men...heck, a kindergarten kid could do that!


All of those thousands of scientists used to be kindergarten kids. And most of the kindergarten kids today will grow up understanding how empty creationism is because we've managed to save them from creationist lies.

And you're helping us do that.


And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 843 of 876 (842366)
10-30-2018 12:44 PM
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10-29-2018 12:05 PM


Re: Confusing
Alluding to some knowledge science has on origin issues that you do not elaborate on is of no value.
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Message 844 of 876 (842370)
10-30-2018 12:52 PM
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10-30-2018 12:44 PM


Re: Confusing
creation writes:

Alluding to some knowledge science has on origin issues that you do not elaborate on is of no value.


Remember that you're the one who is trying to raise creationism from the dead. We have kept it out of the schools. It's gone.

So you're the one who has to make a move to back it up.


And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 845 of 876 (842409)
10-31-2018 7:48 AM
Reply to: Message 837 by creation
10-26-2018 10:27 AM


Re: Confusing
Because in our reference frame the events are that far apart in time. In other reference frames they are not, because time works differently in different places according to relativity.
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Message 846 of 876 (842442)
10-31-2018 2:05 PM
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10-29-2018 12:05 PM


Re: Confusing
You allude to something I do not know about what science claims on origins. Tell us what that is.

I suggest you do not know what you are talking about.

Origin science education washes out the common sense, the truth, the reason, and a sound mind. Therefore a believer in pre school indeed is in far far better shape!


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Message 847 of 876 (842443)
10-31-2018 2:07 PM
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10-31-2018 7:48 AM


Re: Confusing
Relativity does not tell us what time is. Nor would it tell us what any other observation point in the far universe is like as far as time there.
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Message 848 of 876 (842445)
10-31-2018 2:09 PM
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10-30-2018 12:52 PM


Re: Confusing
The belief in creation is not dependent on pagan oppressors running schools in the US actually in any way shape or form.

God says one day all men will know about God. So the truth censoring demoniacs that have offended the kids for so long now will face the music. The truth will march over them.


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Message 849 of 876 (842446)
10-31-2018 2:18 PM
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10-31-2018 2:05 PM


Re: Confusing
creation writes:

You allude to something I do not know about what science claims on origins. Tell us what that is.


You don't know the first thing about science. Calling it religion shows that. People from any religion can agree about science - and they do. It is only the woefully ignorant who reject science.

creation writes:

Therefore a believer in pre school indeed is in far far better shape!


Indeed, you do have the understanding of a pre- schooler. But some of us go beyond pre-school. The people who developed the computer you're using used the same scientific principles that you scoff at. Ironic, ain't it?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 850 of 876 (842447)
10-31-2018 2:23 PM
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10-31-2018 2:09 PM


Re: Confusing
creation writes:

The belief in creation is not dependent on pagan oppressors running schools in the US actually in any way shape or form.


The belief in creationism IS pagan. The authors of the Bible did not reject knowledge like you do. Few Christians reject kowledge like you do. It has been said that creationism is bad science and even worse theology.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 851 of 876 (842455)
10-31-2018 5:33 PM


Astronomers just keep doing astronomy
Timelapse shows twenty-five years in the life of one the most studied objects in astronomy: Supernova 1987a

quote:
Yvette Cendes, a graduate student with the University of Toronto and the Leiden Observatory, has created a time-lapse showing the aftermath of the supernova over a 25-year period, from 1992 to 2017. The images show the shockwave expanding outward and slamming into debris that ringed the original star before its demise.

In an accompanying paper, published in the Astrophysical Journal on October 31st, Cendes and her colleagues add to the evidence that the expanding remnant is shapedónot like a ring like those of Saturn'sóbut like a donut, a form known as a torus.

They also confirm that the shockwave has now picked up some one thousand kilometres per second in speed. The acceleration has occurred because the expanding torus has punched through the ring of debris.


and

Astronomers observe the magnetic field of the remains of supernova 1987A

quote:
For the first time, astronomers have directly observed the magnetism in one of astronomy's most studied objects: the remains of Supernova 1987A (SN 1987A), a dying star that appeared in our skies over thirty years ago.

In addition to being an impressive observational achievement, the detection provides insight into the early stages of the evolution of supernova remnants and the cosmic magnetism within them.

"The magnetism we've detected is around 50,000 times weaker than a fridge magnet," says Prof. Bryan Gaensler. "And we've been able to measure this from a distance of around 1.6 million trillion kilometres."

"This is the earliest possible detection of the magnetic field formed after the explosion of a massive star," says Dr. Giovanna Zanardo.


The thrill of discovery continues for astronomers and astronomy students just as if there is no boundary around our solar system distorting what they and their instruments see.

What is really cool about this is they keep inventing new methods of observation and they are recording and reporting everything to all of us.

It is interesting that hypotheses continue to be proposed and tested as if we are aware of any factors that distort our perceptions and account for them whenever we discover them.

If creation is correct about his imaginary woowoo, it really doesn't matter because scientists are obviously continuing on, having a blast, discovering things, without even noticing his fantasies.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 852 of 876 (842468)
11-01-2018 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 849 by ringo
10-31-2018 2:18 PM


Re: Confusing
You can't admit the ugly religion origin sciences are all about. So you pretend you know more about the fables of science and what they are based on than others. Gong.
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Message 853 of 876 (842469)
11-01-2018 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 850 by ringo
10-31-2018 2:23 PM


Re: Confusing
Creation is confirmed through all the bible actually. Calling it pagan is punk talk.

Edited by creation, : No reason given.


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Message 854 of 876 (842470)
11-01-2018 2:47 PM
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10-31-2018 5:33 PM


Re: Astronomers just keep doing astronomy
25 years....fishbowl time! Ha.
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Message 855 of 876 (842475)
11-01-2018 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 854 by creation
11-01-2018 2:47 PM


Re: Astronomers just keep doing astronomy
25 years....fishbowl time! Ha.

Meanwhile science continues on just as if you and your fantasies are fictional. Ha indeed.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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