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Message 304 of 696 (826462)
01-02-2018 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 303 by ringo
01-02-2018 11:01 AM


Re: Definition Of Terms
Hi ringo,
ringo writes:
If something we can't explain does happen, we don't say, "At present it sure looks like miracles can happen." We say, "I wonder how that happened." That's how science begins.
And when there is no physical answer, "Then What"?
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 310 of 696 (826474)
01-02-2018 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by ringo
01-02-2018 10:55 AM


Hi ringo,
ringo writes:
It's made up. Why do you have to make up examples? Why can't you refer to the examples that are actually called "miracles"?
On Christmas Eve 1971 a 17 year old German girl was aboard a Lockheed Electra traveling 2 miles high over the Amazon. The plane exploded from a lightning strike killing everyone on board except her. She woke up on the jungle floor, still strapped into her seat, and surrounded by fallen holiday gifts. She decided to find civilization by following the flow of water as she had been taught by her father. She had to push the death of her mother who sat beside her in the plane, putting it out of her mind.
She had to ignore her broken collar bone, and other injuries. She wadded from tiny streams to larger ones. She had lost one shoe in the fall and was wearing a ripped miniskirt. Her only food was a bag of candy, and she had nothing but creek and river water to drink.
She had to navigate a jungle that was infested with crocodiles, stingrays, piranha and many kinds of bugs and insects.
On the tenth day, she rested on the bank of the Shebonya River. When she stood up she saw a canoe tethered to the shoreline. It took her hours to climb the embankment to a hut, where the next day a group of lumberjacks found her.
The incident was seen as a miracle in Peru.
There are many other fantastic stories such as the one above.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 311 of 696 (826475)
01-02-2018 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 305 by ringo
01-02-2018 11:39 AM


Re: Definition Of Terms
Hi ringo,
ringo writes:
Keep looking.
When you have exhausted all avenues and there is no physical answer to say just keep looking when there is nothing to look for is like sticking your head in the sand and saying I know what I believe so don't bother me with the facts.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 316 of 696 (826496)
01-02-2018 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 312 by Tangle
01-02-2018 1:51 PM


Hi Tangle,
Tangle writes:
Many thousands every year. But they're not miracles are they? They're simply improbable natural events.
Do a little fact checking before you spout off too loud.
There has been 60 airplane crashes with only 1 survivor. Not all have been said to be miracle survivors.
That is a long way from many thousands every year.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 319 of 696 (826510)
01-03-2018 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 318 by Tangle
01-03-2018 2:28 AM


Hi Tangle,
Tangle writes:
Now, if our girl was lifted out of the aeroplane by a naked, winged cherub and flown gently to the ground to choirs of angels sat on clouds while the other passengers plummeted to their deaths, you might have a point.
How do you know that was not what happened?
She would have hit the ground traveling at 120 miles per hour without something slowing the process.
With such an impact she should not have been able to walk (no one else was able to walk away from the site) for many days yet she was able to walk, wade and contend with a very unfriendly environment, with 1 small bag of candy for nourishment for 10 days.
And if I did not believe in God I would just say she was one of the luckiest people in the world. As I would not believe in divine intervention.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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