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Author Topic:   The Religious Nature of Evolution, or Lack Thereof
MonkeyBoy
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Message 25 of 212 (108770)
05-17-2004 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by almeyda
05-17-2004 1:12 AM


Evolution is blind faith as they cannot explain or repeat the so called big bang origin.
Please submit any documented evidence (from a non-creationist source, since "they" tend to make up definitions for words "they" don't understand) that supports that the big bang is in any way connected with ToE.
Creation is well passed all this as they are basing it on Gods word.
How do we know that the bible is god's word? What does god have to do with common descent with modification? Chiroptera said in post 20 that:
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Also, where does it say in the theory of evolution that there is no God? You are aware, aren't you, that there are many people who believe in God and accept the theory of evolution as a correct description of the real world?
I am one of those people. So are many others; evolution no more affects my faith than observed weather patterns.
I and all other creation scientist would no doubt drop creation if it was not making sense and evolution was fact and had overwhelming evidence.
Interesting. You speak for ALL other creation scientists? Do they know that you speak for them? If so, and all you need is evidence, then what is the problem?
Unfortunately the fossil record has all but hindered evolutions attempts at calling there[sic] theory fact. So once again there is faith involved.
Care to elaborate? What do you expect to find in the fossil record? I spoke to a guy that told me if the Earth was old, and fossils were 'real', then we the ground should be nothing but fossils; that they should be erupting out of the ground! lol! That one gave me a brain cramp. I asked him and I ask you, can you define in layman's terms the conditions that need to exist before something dead can become fossilized? {Sorry about topic drift, but I am not sure almeyda understands the definitions of the very subjects he is refuting}
It is a form of historical science where the world is a natural world therefore things have evolved.
Are you saying that the world is not a natural world? What is it, a supernatural world(whatever that means)? If so, and we are living in world that is full of science-violating-miracles, what are they? I'd really, really like to see them. What then, is the point of science?
It is not science vs religion it is one form of science vs another form of science.
Wait; you started this by saying evolution
Evolution is blind faith
is not science but a religion. You then state that the bible (god's word to you) is science AND that evolution is also, science
one form of science vs another form of science.
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Which is it? What does "another form of science" mean? Can science take on different forms?

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MonkeyBoy
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Message 48 of 212 (109637)
05-21-2004 8:27 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by almeyda
05-19-2004 12:02 AM


MONKEY BOY - You are the same person who has not yet found God. And are still searching
Well, I believe I have found god, but not the god that you believe in. I think that the different faiths are searching, discovering new things as they are revealed through nature. Thus, I absolutely do not see a problem with god and evolution co-existing. I cannot for the life of see how they cancel each other out.
Things came to being through natural processes (evolution). Supernatural is the complete opposite. God/creator created the world,universe,life etc. These are the two frameworks evolutionists and creationists build upon. Same science, same evidence, different interpretation.
How is the supernatural studied by science, if science deals exclusively with the natural? Evidence is evidence, if I jump off a building, I am providing in vivid detail evidence to support gravity (which by the way does not conflict with the biblical god; does it? Maybe it does since Christ ascended to heaven); how can the evidence of my ultimate splat due to the existance of gravity be 'interpreted' as anything else?
Please forgive for posting so late on this, but you didn't reply to me and I just noticed it.

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