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NosyNed
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Message 41 of 207 (501953)
03-08-2009 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by ICANT
03-08-2009 8:47 PM


defining terms
Actually anyone that does not believe the universe is eternal in existence believes in creation science.
Equivocating this way only makes discussion meaningless or impossible. You know there is a widely accepted meaning to "creation science". It does not include those who believe there is a natural cause of the formation of what we call the universe.
In fact, it doesn't include the vast majority of Christians either. If you want to use the term as you are using it then you are pretty much alone and no one will know what you are talking about.
If you use CS as you are then what do we call the fundamentalists who want the Bible taught in public schools and are willing to lie to get by constitutional limits?

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Message 112 of 207 (502209)
03-10-2009 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Kelly
03-10-2009 10:01 AM


Re: Radiometric Dating is Unreliable
You've already been given one reason why this isn't good science (it is arguable that it is science).
They have not taken into account all known processes. C14 can be formed in situ if the material is near radioactive ores. Interestingly this can create amounts enough to bring measured age within the most extreme limits of carbon dating.
Unless this is accounted for the results can not be taken as you source suggests.
Fortunately people who actually know how to use carbon dating aren't so foolish as those of your source. They do not attempt to use it when it is out of it's range of applicability. Doing so it, at best, bad science, and, at worst not science at all but rather is dishonesty.

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NosyNed
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Message 122 of 207 (502244)
03-10-2009 1:14 PM
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03-10-2009 12:42 PM


Re: LIAR
Where exactly is the accusation of lying?

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NosyNed
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Message 153 of 207 (502367)
03-11-2009 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 150 by Kelly
03-11-2009 10:17 AM


Creastion Science -- details
.is a study of the evidence left behind, looking to test the creation model hypothesis which says that life was created suddenly and all things were completed at that time. There are no longer any processes occuring today. Life is what it is and besides the (micro) evolution of all created types--there is nothing truly new. There is nothing about true science that says we cannot test origins results for signs of created/designed law and order. I have, by-the-way, offered plenty of description of what creation science is and what it does. I have to go...
So CS says life was created suddenly in a number of distinct forms? Yes?
Does it say if this happened at one period of time or at several different times?

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