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Author Topic:   Evidence for a Conspiracy of Scientists?
Brad McFall
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Message 25 of 85 (200770)
04-20-2005 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Tusko
04-19-2005 1:08 PM


Re: let's talk about the OTHER conspiracy for a second
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I'd like to hear how the conspirators stop creationist scientists from publishing their refutations of the body of modern science AND BECOMING STINKINGLY RICH AND FAMOUS as a result. But we never do.
Neither side is a heavy weight. The evos have the burden of the development of molecular biological terms without dividing the theoretical interest while creos have the suffiency to reveal to the infinte measurements inherent in the structure of the same. There is money to made. I hope it occurrs before I die without my son knowing who I am.

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Brad McFall
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From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 29 of 85 (200950)
04-21-2005 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Tusko
04-21-2005 4:22 AM


Re: let's talk about the OTHER conspiracy for a second
By divide the theoretical interest I meant in short say, the consequence of quantum complementarity for the biology of apple tree grafts. This would divde an art of physical teleology in the triple relations of phenotype, geneotype and niche for instance and would permit an allowance to invelop the natural purpose biogeographically of what topography might indeed be for. Let me explain
In SPECIATIONAL EVOLUTION THROUGH PUNCTUATED EQUILIBRIA
(Toward New Philosophy of Biology)
Mayr distinguishes three exceedingly different concepts of evolution. {saltational evoltution, transformational evolution, and variational evolution}. Physical teleology is necessary to biogeography so as to link these positions on biological change of form-making to translation in space and answers thereat what topography is for genetically but to do so divides Mayr’s investment in typologizing BOTH Agassiz and Rosen, Nelson and Platnick. It is unclear if the multidimensional taxonomy that might separate out this deductive future while continue to place the linguistic level difference between the deme and the species nor that so separated clusters need necessarily be not polyphletic nor necessarily not polygenic. If the translation assists in a human economy of change it does not matter whether the classification is in fidelity with Hennig or not. This however does not return the taste for establishement of an art of the division therefrom but instead remands a natural purpose for life OF EARTH.
It seems to me that Richard Lewontin made claims about the FUNCTION of theoretical studies in population biology because no matter infinite measurements MacArthur might have adumbrated accrued alike to niches as well as phenotypes and geneotypes the finiteness might still be accepted by thought of recursion within a cycle of analytica population biology of sensu population genetics strictly setting limits to the molecular expansion that biology witness day by day and term by term. But because there DOES exist math in which infinite processing can be apportioned to variations by denying that the function is on the actual manifestion being explained and not on the possiblilty of an exemplar it seems that any retrodiction of the difference between phenotype and geneotype can not withstand conceptual hierarhicaliation in which the niche must be thought as the species level is granted the ontological status of the deme when it comes to relating adaptation and time.
If the analysis of biology proceeds no further there can not be the division I suggested but it appears that the reason Lewontin insistant on the variational kind of changability does not grant this extended discussion is because although he wishes to maintain the kinematic changes molecular biology can reduce biology to he does not think infinte variable additions will alter his rejection of quantum mechanics IN THE QUESTION. I suspect that it is not that Delbruck was simply correct that history makes adaptations different telenomically than inanimate matter but that even in quantum mecahanics the variables that are being commuted are not the real ones. I am not necessarily saying there is some hidden variable here but only that should quantum computation achieve commerce materiality it will become outcompeted by biological inspired developments without entanglement providing the basis from which the parallel processing might be accomplished. THIS is where the division of the interest would be most stark. I suspect an underlaying 1-D symmetry biological fit where current Borhian philosophy differs from Einstein’s nondevelopement of Debeys ideas. I am investigating the possibility that the temporality of adaptability that Mayr denied to Fisher, Haldane and Wright can indeed be read from their work through macrothermodyanmics. That is how Mayr resolved the tension but he did so assuming that no more terminological reduction was possible in the same water. I think he was mistaken because of his linking phenetically Agassiz and READERS OF CROIZAT in Hutchinson’s notion of taxa. He therethrough categorically misses any contribution that Wise breaking from Gould might induce should the synthesis I project actually happen and not be but the dream of a theoretician.
I have started to explain to Ben how I think quantum notions DO provide meaningful insight into the nervous system and I will later expand on diaelectric traits(in electric fish say) that divide the capital to split down the middle the following graph due to thermal current diaelectric losses(Faraday’s question as to if a fish can be alternatively a conductor and an insulator) but anyway it is because I can simply imagine these situations that I discover in my own mind, that some change will happen. It will happen not because some neat technology will result but because human population expansion will request something like this, as the only alternative, given that today in our present knowledge,the alternative(sic) is is war. We already have enough of that. Then we will be able to say outside law what geographic place is is. It was not the WhiteHouse.
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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 81 of 85 (204758)
05-03-2005 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Tusko
04-28-2005 8:18 AM


Re: let's talk about the OTHER conspiracy for a second
appletree grafts ~=
quote:
But in order to regard a thing cognized as a natural product as a purpose also - consequently as a natural purpose, if this is not a contradiction - something more is required. I would say provisionally : a thing exists as a natural purpose if it is [although in a double sense] both cause and effect of itself...In the first place, a tree generates another tree,...individual...Thirdly, each part of a tree generates itself in such a way that the maintenance of any one part depends reciprocally on the ...engrafted....
KANT@64 Critique of Teleological Judgment
in context of
Arithmetical or geometrical analogies, as well as universal mechanical laws- however strange and admirable may seem to us the union of different rules, quite independent of one another according to all appearence, in a single principle - possess on that account no claim to be teleological grounds of explanation in physics. Even if they deserve to be brought into consideration in the universal theory of the purposiveness of things of nature, yet they belong to another@68
Command=x=Divide the union before Mark10(25) quotes my use of Matchette's polarized metaphysics.
Point to some words if you want me to slow up the explanation. It would not be necessarily a rule based computation domain suffiently on my position however. I dont think Quantum Computation (if and when) is GOD. Take minimization by the principle of substance stability obeying Gladyshev's "law" as such a means to do the bookeeping if the dissection of Frolich's work is too particularized.
Frolich also has a rather unique explanation of how microwaves affect enzyme equilibria but Time/Warner, Verizon and Motorolla would not like that to be true. This doesnt mean that we divide away any theoretical ground in biology however in the system by the processed pattern. I am pushing for what deserves attention¬ yet what is true as such necessarily and must be taught. I used to feel like I did not belong. That is past. But evolutionists arguing with creationists about how long biochange MIGHT occur in temporally"" prevents delimitation and defintion of when there is NO contradiction logically generally.
I had gesticulated about this two way directum before @
http://EvC Forum: does it matter which is or not when there is value commercially? -->EvC Forum: does it matter which is or not when there is value commercially?
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op cit-Postcellualr "polar" control balances neutralizations potentially by a new chemical synthesis that double pressure/voltage effects. Acid/base and or attraction/reulsions may provide a different effect on the surrounding extracellular physico-chemical environment than occurs by external variable within a give cell such that by trajectory or orbit the kinematic necessary to do at least bipolar functionality intercellular torque such is less conservable extracellular than intracellularly but ions flow regardless of adaptive conserverd lesser magnitudes

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