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Author Topic:   Evidence for a Conspiracy of Scientists?
Modulous
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Message 62 of 85 (204274)
05-02-2005 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Limbo
05-01-2005 10:04 PM


Re: The biggest clue
In a debate, the side which displays the most bigotry, hate, intolerance, ridicule, and anger is usually the loosing side
I'm fairly sure that the evolutionary model is subject to ridicule, hate, bigotry and inolerance as well as anger from Creationists. Creationists fear science because they think it displaces their faith. Creationists fear that if science is right about origins, then there is no heaven and no salvation.
Scientists fear that if ID or Creationism is thought of as scientific then standards of science would degrade considerably. We would also have to accept that the moon landing might have been a hoax, the holocaust didn't happen and that the British royal family are reptiles. Scientists spend years upon years studying their field, and are rightly miffed when someone who has studied an entirely different field (such as engineering) comes along and criticizes their work. They fear that pseudo-science will be taught as science which will be a travesty for science. Scientists don't want travesties to happen to their field.

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Modulous
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Message 83 of 85 (206707)
05-10-2005 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Limbo
05-02-2005 12:26 PM


Re: The biggest clue
Sorry about the late reply, I just discovered the 'reply awaiting' page
The vast majority of scientific advances throughout history have been made under the belief that there is a God. Your point is moot.
My point would be moot if my point was that belief in God precludes making scientific discoveries. Instead, my point was that scientists fear poor science becoming accepted. degrading the standards of science.
What they REALLY fear is that if there is ANY validity to the belief in a creator, they will have to change their sinful lifestyle, recognize an authority, and abandon their god-less worldview.
This is the real reason they oppose ID.
I contend that many scientists already believe in a creator and so cannot possibly fear this.
In addition: Speak with scientists, many of them will say something along the lines of "It is possible that God exists, it is just impossible for science to demonstrate that, as such any science which purports to demonstrate God is almost certainly flawed."
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