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Author Topic:   AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy)
truthlover
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Message 190 of 281 (85363)
02-11-2004 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by Minnemooseus
02-11-2004 12:21 AM


Re: ideas causing a buzzz
No, we are calling what we see in His creation (the universe and everything of the universe) the truth!
Unfortunately, His writings seem to have been damaged by his editors, man.
I repeated this to the guys in my office (all friends of mine and all three of them among the last four or five anti-evolution holdouts in our village till the last few months), and they all loved the way this was put.
Unfortunately, 14gipper says he couldn't figure out what you were saying. He doesn't know what he's missing.
EDIT: Shoot, moose, I'm sorry. I was mostly done with the second message when I saw your post. I tried to make sure the messages were not antagonistic, but I went ahead and finished it. I hope that's okay.
[This message has been edited by truthlover, 02-11-2004]

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truthlover
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Message 191 of 281 (85366)
02-11-2004 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 189 by simple
02-11-2004 2:46 AM


Re: good for the goose, good for the gander
One reason we need to teach the truth.
The schools are trying to teach the truth.
You've given us emotional and personal reasons that you don't want evolution taught in the schools. However, you have not given any reason for us to suppose that evolution is not true. This is not really the thread for that, but the answer can't be "we need to teach the truth," because more Americans believe evolution is the truth than believe it is not the truth.
By the way do most evolutionists then, really, not believe in the supernatural?
49% of America is evolutionist. Only 10% is atheist. Assuming all the atheists believe in evolution, then 39% of America believes in evolution and believes in a god of some sort and therefore in the supernatural in some way. In fact, since 39 out of 49 evolutionists are not atheist, then 80% of evolutionists do believe in the supernatural in some form.
Crashfrog, then, is in the minority. (Don't fret, crash, that should make you eligible for some sort of government funding, or at least a 10% leeway on bids for contract jobs with the government.)
The statistics are different among scientists, where nearly 50% are atheists and over 90% believe in evolution. I remember it working out to 50/50 among scientists.
So as long as the education is reflective of, and servant to the Christian majority, then fine.
Does America have a Christian majority? I'd be willing to bet that in a couple decades it won't. If it did not, then would you be okay with education being reflective of and servant to whoever was the majority? What if, say, it were Buddhist?

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truthlover
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Message 248 of 281 (87224)
02-18-2004 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by simple
02-11-2004 8:26 PM


Re: leave room for zoom
In Gen 2 19th verse, it is recountin now what was already done, reviewing. How that " ..out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and foul of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them:.." [snip for space] So here they are not being created again, just mentioned, and zoomed in on.
I see. So how come the fowl of the air are created out of the ground here, but they're created out of the water in the first chapter?

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truthlover
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Message 249 of 281 (87227)
02-18-2004 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 232 by simple
02-12-2004 8:01 PM


Re: A closer look at Adam's lover
( God in chap 2 goes back & expounds on the situation, like why Adam needed a lover) When God made the animals in the last chapter, it was because of what He's talking about here..the reasons-fleshing it out.
This is hilarious. This is supposed to be an answer to Trixie pointing out that Genesis Two says man was alone, so God made animals, which is an obvious contradiction of Genesis One, which says animals were already made?
What an answer! "It was because of what he's talking about here...the reasons-fleshing it out."
Do you want to try again?
Also, there's another problem in that in Genesis one, God makes man "male and female" after the animals. Male and female at the same time. In Genesis Two, it's man all alone without animals or women, then animals made for man to have a companion, then a naked woman, as you put it, as a suitable companion.
This is a contradiction, and "it was because of what he's talking about here...the reasons-fleshing it out," just isn't a sufficient answer.

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