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coffee_addict
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Message 16 of 25 (159434)
11-14-2004 6:12 PM
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11-14-2004 4:26 PM


Re: lose some win some ...
Might as well teach school children that things sometimes fall upward.

Hate world.
Revenge soon!

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RAZD
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Message 17 of 25 (159928)
11-15-2004 7:46 PM
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11-14-2004 4:26 PM


Re: lose some win some ...
and I can suggest some experiments to test gravity ...
actually gravity is a very good example ...
Newton's gravity works on earth, but not in space.
Einstein's gravity works in space as long as you don't worry about galaxies ...
... gravity doesn't work at the level of galaxies without adding fudge factors of dark matter and energy ...
... and there has been no "graviton" found ...
so we have theories that come close, but are not perfect. that's science.

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arachnophilia
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Message 18 of 25 (159950)
11-15-2004 9:19 PM
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11-15-2004 7:46 PM


Re: lose some win some ...
and I can suggest some experiments to test gravity ...
sure, stuff falls every time we've ever tested it, but how do you know it will next time?
and i debate that it's really falling, i think the it's really the earth that moves, and the objest stays stationary!

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Message 19 of 25 (160085)
11-16-2004 11:47 AM
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11-15-2004 9:19 PM


Re: lose some win some ...
Arachnophilia writes:
and i debate that it's really falling, i think the it's really the earth that moves, and the objest stays stationary!
Ironically that is technically a valid viewpoint since no objective measure of movement is possible. If someone wishes to base everything on a frame of reference where the object is unmoving let them. lol

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Message 20 of 25 (160241)
11-16-2004 7:29 PM
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11-15-2004 9:19 PM


personal gravity test ...
one can always take the personal gravity test when in doubt: a short step off the empire state building should suffice to gather lots of personal data on the effect.
I've done it.
(mind you it was just a "short" version ... off the first step ... but it worked.)

we are limited in our ability to understand
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Message 21 of 25 (160312)
11-17-2004 1:08 AM
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11-16-2004 7:29 PM


Re: personal gravity test ...
one can always take the personal gravity test when in doubt: a short step off the empire state building should suffice to gather lots of personal data on the effect.
I've done it.
you know that's against the law, right? and we good little christians would never break any laws.
"give unto ceaser..."
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arachnophilia
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Message 22 of 25 (160313)
11-17-2004 1:10 AM
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11-16-2004 11:47 AM


Re: lose some win some ...
Ironically that is technically a valid viewpoint since no objective measure of movement is possible. If someone wishes to base everything on a frame of reference where the object is unmoving let them. lol
thus the joke.
and even in newtonian mechanics, the earth DOES move a little when you drop something.

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Message 23 of 25 (160826)
11-18-2004 12:32 AM
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11-14-2004 4:26 PM


Re: lose some win some ...
How about this--God is only a theory, not a fact? (in the popular sense of a theory, of course)

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arachnophilia
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Message 24 of 25 (160838)
11-18-2004 1:25 AM
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11-18-2004 12:32 AM


Re: lose some win some ...
no, i don't think it fits. god is a reality, i've met him and have a personal relationship with his son!
(jesus mows my lawn...)

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RAZD
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Message 25 of 25 (161291)
11-18-2004 9:25 PM
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11-17-2004 1:08 AM


Re: personal gravity test ...
that depends on what level you start from.
take it one step at a time?

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
{{{Buddha walks off laughing with joy}}}

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