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Author Topic:   December, 2003, Posts of the Month
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Message 1 of 42 (70188)
12-01-2003 12:01 AM


The "Posts of the Month" forum index page.
These topics listed at the above page are still available for additions.
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Now for December 2003 (as per previous months):
quote:
Please post your votes for the December, 2003, Post of the Month here. Include author, forum name, thread name, post number, eg:
Name: Velvet Tongue
Forum: Evolution
Thread: I'm no monkey
Post #: 17
A link to the message, and perhap a SHORT comment would also be nice. But, this is NOT a place to debate the referenced topic - so be nice.
I think that a fairly liberal use of this topic would be a good thing for indexing some nice messages that are otherwise doomed to be lost in the clutter. So, if you encounter a message that seems to say something of special substance, please give it a plug/reference in this topic.
New month, same old message and routine,
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Message 2 of 42 (70307)
12-01-2003 2:12 PM


Name: NosyNed
Forum: Evolution
Thread: Is The Fossil Record and indication of Evolution?
Post #: 63
Sonic said:
quote:
I just hope that their is more foundation in the evolutionist world then what you have shown me.
Nosy replied:
quote:
Good grief!!!!
What you have seen is some incrediably tiny part of it all. It is a bit like you have seen a comic book taken from a major city library!
An nice analogy! The question is, how does the science side present, in the restrictive nature of this forum, what is the truly massive amount of data that science has collected.
Moose
Remember - This forum is not a place to debate the topic/message cited.

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Message 3 of 42 (70339)
12-01-2003 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Minnemooseus
12-01-2003 2:12 PM


Darn!!! Too late.
I second minnemooseus's nomination of Nosy's post because of the analogy - although I'm not so sure about the use of "comic book" in the analogy. LOL
I can see it now, Nosy thinks the ToE is about as factual as a comic book...

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Message 4 of 42 (70340)
12-01-2003 4:09 PM


Name: Rei
Forum: Education and Creation/Evolution
Thread: Teaching the Truth in Schools
Post #:63
I was just about to post the exact same thing. Really.
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The dark nursery of evolution is very dark indeed.
Brad McFall

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Message 5 of 42 (70554)
12-02-2003 10:32 AM


Name: Quetzel
Forum: Evolution
Thread: What convinced you of evolution
Post #: 21
Somehow we have received a mini-auto-biography. This has some poetry in it and I have to thank Quetzel for sharing it. It is a much more accurate expression of my reasons for being convinced than my own post.
It is too bad our short term visitor who asked the question will not "get it" at all. A clear case of "pearls before ...".

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Message 6 of 42 (70555)
12-02-2003 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by NosyNed
12-02-2003 10:32 AM


I absolutely agree. Fascinating post. Great job, Q!

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Message 7 of 42 (70563)
12-02-2003 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by MrHambre
12-02-2003 10:37 AM


Thanks Nosy, Mr.H. My intent was to show the questioner that there were more ways to arrive at the evo conclusion than brainwashing, ignorance or philosophical desperation (in the sense of blindly searching for something to replace God). I got there through my own observations. Biology simply put a name to it and added details to my understanding. If I had seen anything that contradicted (substantively, I mean) the theory, then I wouldn't have accepted it. It's a process of observation that ANYONE can do - even an 8-year-old. One of the greatest rewards of my life so far is seeing the same process unfolding in my oldest daughter - who has accompanied me on many of my field jaunts. To see almost the exact same sense of awakening interest and dawning understanding in her - bit by bit, observation by observation, explanation by explanation - takes me back to my own childhood in many ways (in spite of being somewhat of a loner, it was a very happy time). The other day, she said - completely unsolicited - "Of course I want to study biology - it's what my daddy did..." (*sounds of "awwww, ain't that sweet" from the peanut gallery*)

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Message 8 of 42 (70564)
12-02-2003 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Quetzal
12-02-2003 11:18 AM


May I suggest that in the new year we go over the 2003 posts of the month and pick one as post of the year? I think the rule should be that a post has to have been a post of the month before it can be considered?

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Message 9 of 42 (70601)
12-02-2003 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by NosyNed
12-02-2003 10:32 AM


I want to go on record opposing the nomination of this otherwise excellent post as it thoroughly disappointed me with my life since I did not grow up with a backyard which included 10ha of forest and streams and a nature museum.
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holmes

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Message 10 of 42 (70656)
12-02-2003 8:45 PM


Name: Rei
Forum: Faith and Belief
Thread: continuation of the Ultimate Gift Thread
Post #: 74
Rei seems to have said it all. I think the two sides should be able to understand where the other is coming from and let this thread be tied off now.

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Message 11 of 42 (70697)
12-03-2003 2:53 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Quetzal
12-02-2003 11:18 AM


quote:
The other day, she said - completely unsolicited - "Of course I want to study biology - it's what my daddy did..." (*sounds of "awwww, ain't that sweet" from the peanut gallery*)
Sounds of groans from Mammuthus eating the peanut gallery. Q, dissuade your daughter from a life of being on the brink of unemployment, pseudo-indentured servitude to professors, living from grant to grant, and having to be near retirement age before earning a liveable income (if your lucky)...Mammuthus tramps off to deal with his latest announced grant budget cut and proposed 10% reduction of his salary

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Message 12 of 42 (70740)
12-03-2003 10:49 AM


Two Posts of the Month
I will refrain from commenting on either but will let them stand on their own.
Name: Buzsaw
Forum: Miscellaneous Topic in Creation/Evolution
Thread: Names of God
Post #: 97
Name: TruthLover
Forum: Evolution
Thread: What Convinced You of Evolution
Post#: 43

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Message 13 of 42 (70747)
12-03-2003 11:23 AM


Name: Quetzal
Forum: Evolution
Thread: A Creationists Definition of Evolution.
Post #: 9
"Evolution is a quantifiable change in the prevalence of inheritable traits or characteristics in a specific population of organisms over one or more generations." The best definition of evolution I've seen, on top of an "I wished I'd said that" (or more accurately, I wished I could say that) post.
Mark

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Message 14 of 42 (70765)
12-03-2003 12:29 PM


Name: Alex
Forum: Miscellaneous Topics in Creation/Evolution
Thread: The Roman Catholic Church and Evolution
Post #: 22
This should kill off that topic.
Moose

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Message 15 of 42 (70948)
12-04-2003 8:30 AM


Name: Daniel P.
Forum: Evolution
Thread: What Convinced You of Evolution?
Post #: 46
I don't know how I missed this first time around. Daniel has done an excellent job in a very short post describing the "emotionally fulfilling" (that was weak - I just hate using the word "spiritual") side of nature. This is what fundamentalists keep claiming is impossible for a non-believer. Daniel has done a better job than I ever could articulating my own feelings when I contemplate the complexity and majesty of life and the universe. Well done.

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