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Author Topic:   Hammer found in Cretaceous layer
Quetzal
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Message 34 of 160 (174440)
01-06-2005 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by PurpleYouko
01-06-2005 12:44 PM


Re: The deed is done!
Nicely written. The betting pool opens now, of course: odds are currently 4,512,875 - 1 against them sending it to you. Any takers?
OTOH, I'm thoroughly impressed with your ability to type:
Our facility extends an offer to other educational facilities such as yourself
without collapsing from apoplexic laughter.

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Quetzal
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Message 129 of 160 (182574)
02-02-2005 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by JonF
02-02-2005 11:05 AM


Hmm. I wonder if someone should let the NCSE know they have a serious, creationist-level misstatement in that article?
Why was there no attempt to date the hammer stylistically (it is of recent American historical style) or to subject the metal and/or wood to radiocarbon analysis instead of only doing this to some unrelated stick from Michigan? (emphasis added)
I'm no geologist, but I wasn't aware you could use C-14 dating on metal? I'm sure the author simply mis-stated, but since we pride ourselves on clear and factual refutations of creationist nonsense, this is a pretty big one, IMO.

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Quetzal
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Message 131 of 160 (182797)
02-03-2005 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by TheLiteralist
02-03-2005 1:57 AM


Re: anecdotal evidence
The above post is the reason I enjoy discussing things with you, TheLit. I agree with you 100% (you're not slipping to the Dark Side, are you? ). Baugh and others like him (Hovind is a supreme example) are the best advertisements for the loyal opposition that exist. Every utterance and false claim by these hucksters and outright purveyors of falsehood causes more people to question creationism as a whole than any 100 scientific journal articles. No one likes to be lied to or made to look like a fool...

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Quetzal
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Message 148 of 160 (186124)
02-17-2005 8:41 AM
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02-16-2005 5:27 PM


Thanks joz. I had no idea. Would there be sufficient residue in a manufactured item like a hammer to get enough carbon to sample? Do you have any (non-specialist) descriptions/discussions of this kind of thing (dating metal with high-carbon residue) that I could look at?
Thanks again.

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Message 153 of 160 (186382)
02-17-2005 7:56 PM
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02-17-2005 11:07 AM


Muchas gracias! (Q joins in joz's backpatting.)

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