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zephyr
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From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 111 of 121 (77248)
01-08-2004 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by johnfolton
01-08-2004 9:06 PM


Hi. I'm Zephyr. Been watching for a while but really busy. A few points:
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But you do sink when liquefaction takes place, Walt explained the waters rising up from the sediments, caused by the tidal currents, so you think sediments compact quickly when you have undertidal currents, etc...likely explaining how the sediments settled lower in the Jurasic layer, I really didn't want to argue about the flood sorting, figured it was a pandoras box, for all I know your iridium layers were caused by the flood itself, forming your T-K boundary, the asteroid could of been much deeper, explaining the fossil record being lower in the sediment record, whatever, thought the precambrian layer was pretty much devoid of life, supporting the biblical account that life came onto the scene fully formed, you know the missing transitional fossils, in the sediments below the jurassic layers, in the precambrian etc...
The Precambrian has fossils in it. The boundary was originally set at the oldest rocks where we had found life. Since then, scientists have found very small and simple life forms known as "bacteria" (maybe you've heard of them?) in the Precambrian, and it was rather inconvenient to move the boundary. The rest of your hideous run-on sentence I'll leave for others to decipher.
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P.S. The sediment layers could of happened via Walt Browns, tidal liquefaction, likely even the earth was shaking, if the fountains of the deep were erupting, causing fossils to float deeper into the pre-flood sediment layers, etc...
"coulda" is the best you can usually get from a creationist: piles of obfuscation and possibilities. Why don't you look at the reasonable and well-supported explanations offered by actual scientists, and learn them well enough to actually understand them, before you discard them outright?
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The trees that floated up out of the earth, floated in mass to all the fossil grave yards all over the earth, only a world flood could of caused such mass graves, and then covered them with a layer of sediment as the waters washed off the earth, etc...
NO! They are buried in many fossil layers! Can you even point to a single one of the "mass graves" you claim exist?
As has been pointed out to you, trees have been around for many millions of years and are divided among strata according to characteristics other than their basic size, shape, and density. Their worldwide distribution has nothing to do with hydrodynamic sorting or any global water movement.
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Just for your information, the bottomless pit is the center of the earth, so the star(asteroid)that will hit the earth will penetrate trough the tecktonic plates to the bottomless pit, technically, the bottom of the pit is the center of the earth, hence its called the bottomless pit, etc...
Thus splattering the earth all over space.
Asteroids that hit the earth hard enough to drastically change the climate and kill nearly everything alive still barely get into the crust. To penetrate all the way to the core (through thousands of miles of rock and solid/liquid metal) with a chunk of rock, the size and speed required of the meteor would dictate that you'd pretty much have to smash the planet apart with it. Kinda hard for the rest of your apocalyptic scenario to play out thereafter, don't you think?
Check out this site: http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znp07031928.html
I offer it both as an illustration (compare the size of the crater and the devastation implied by the geologic evidence to the depth of penetration indicated by drilling) and just because Meteor Crater is an amazing sight to see. If you haven't been there, I highly recommend it.

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zephyr
Member (Idle past 4571 days)
Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 115 of 121 (77260)
01-09-2004 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by johnfolton
01-08-2004 10:53 PM


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zephyr, The rocky mountain coal fields are massive, only a world flood could of formed them, bacteria are not a transitional fossil, it is obvious that the evidence in your fossil record, is that life came unto the scene fully formed, etc...
hahahaha! I said nothing of transitional fossils. I merely noted that the earliest "life" observed in the fossil record is the simplest known (apart from viruses, whose status as "life" is debated). The point was that there was life in the Precambrian and that it was the simplest kind we could expect to locate in fossil form. You did nothing to counter this point
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P.S. The bible says this star will be given a key to the bottomless pit, and the earth will shake as it has not shaken since man was on the face of the earth.
On a side note, the core of the earth could hardly be called a bottomless pit. You come out on the other side if you go deep enough. But, since we know the ancient Hebrews thought the earth was flat, their mistake is understandable.
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Interestingly, even before Newton discovered gravity the bible talked about the bottomless pit, now we know it is a literal place,
Yeah, the center of a spher?
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but to be given a key to this pit, sounds like even the atmosphere will be rolled back, like what they believed happened in the tungsla explosion, and that was believe to of happened in the upper atmosphere, not the inner earth, etc...
A meteor exploded in the atmosphere. The atmosphere stayed where it was.
*yawn*
Anything other irrelevant run-on sentences for me?
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I don't see any reason to post anymore on this thread, while I don't have all the answers, liquefication, more completely explains the biblical flood, and while I can not prove CUA is being formed in the sediments, Snellings diamonds infer that its happens, bringing the PA and AA dating methods under a new light, given the very basalts your dating contain thorium, with carbon dioxide in the water leaching into the sediments, that could very well be converting argon gas into a stable compound explaining quite easily how the very sediment sorting happened not millions of years, but from a 40 day world flood, etc...
You haven't proved a damned thing to anyone but yourself. Oh wait... you proved that it is possible to replace periods with commas and stretch one poor, abused sentence into an entire page of pseudoscientific speculation.
Argon gas does not form compounds under any known conditions. Hydrodynamic sorting could not under any circumstances sort ferns from flowering plants in the way the fossil record has. Liquefaction does not explain anything. The biblical flood is not supported by geology, and early CREATIONISTS were the first to realize this. Your illusions are still intact, for which reason I am truly sad that you claim to be departing. If you had any desire to learn here (as might be expected of a newcomer with an obvious lack of knowledge) then it remains utterly unfulfilled. Bye....

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