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Message 1231 of 1269 (844383)
11-29-2018 2:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1230 by ringo
11-28-2018 3:01 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
No. It was to prevent the CREATED KINDS placed on the ark from dying! Who says all the animals that evolved/adapted from created kinds in the 16 centuries before the flood got to come? After all with the rapid evolution of the former nature there could even have been birds that evolved into dino, or whatever...who knows!?

It also makes perfect sense that a limited number of animals (original created kinds only) went onto one single boat!


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Message 1232 of 1269 (844385)
11-29-2018 2:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1229 by Coragyps
11-28-2018 10:35 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
?? I think I suggested maybe what is now iridium may have been used in some way with the chemical processes set up to dispose of dead flesh and blood etc. If not, then something else was used!

However since iridium has a source (science tells us) in the deep earth and space, that is a match for where flood water originated! Regardless of whether it was or was not a part of the clean up materials of that day.


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Message 1233 of 1269 (844386)
11-29-2018 2:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1228 by edge
11-28-2018 10:27 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Why would they not...why would they...both are questions above the pay grade and knowledge and depth of present day science!

Since trees grew in weeks in the former nature of the bile (also the future nature interestingly) and man lived about 1000 years, and evolving was fast fast fast fast, it seems logical to rule out present genetics! But since science doesn't know, it is a matter of belief not knowledge or present science.


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Message 1234 of 1269 (844388)
11-29-2018 2:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1226 by RAZD
11-28-2018 10:09 AM


Re: Still so wrong
You used the king list! That contains spirit kings, missing and unknown kings!

Trying to distance yourself now under the intense fire eh?

We must look at the basis for dates and chronology, not how many people believe in ages for whatever reasons!

Your tree ring sequence (admit it) involves dead trees and living trees whose rings are matched and added together...no? If a tree used to grow fast that has no value! You can forget rings (and every other so called collaboration) that depends on a present nature, and get down to proving the nature you claim existed did exist!

Furniture made from dead trees has zero value unless you prove that they grew slow..in the nature of the present! Any correlating the rings without first proving what nature they grew in is an exercise in blind faith.

Yes trees 'breath' carbon and blah blah now. IN THIS nature. So? What you have failed to do is show this nature existed. Instead you proceed as if it did blindly.

Your religious correlation/circular reasoning is busted again.


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Message 1235 of 1269 (844389)
11-29-2018 2:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1225 by edge
11-28-2018 10:07 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
The shocked quartz markings at the crater were what I was talking about.

http://craterexplorer.ca/shock-metamorphism/

And no, the great extinction of the flood was not my idea. Nor where the bible says the flood waters came from.


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Message 1236 of 1269 (844391)
11-29-2018 2:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1223 by Tanypteryx
11-27-2018 6:18 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Naturally a godless fable would say nothing of the flood. They try to explain things under their religious paradigm. They have no ability to think out of the box.
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Message 1237 of 1269 (844393)
11-29-2018 3:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1234 by creation
11-29-2018 2:35 AM


... Still so wrong -- the correlations win again
Thank you again for proving my point that you can't deal with the correlations, as this once again confirms the age of the earth being old old old is still hasn't been refuted.

Your religious correlation/circular reasoning is busted again.

Thank you for confirming what I posted in Message 1215 and again in Message 1226, that creationists are incapable of dealing with the correlations, explaining the details with something other than fantasy, denial and false statements.

You have not demonstrated circular reasoning at all (do you even know what it is?). Curiously just making claims proves nothing.

... What you have failed to do is show this nature existed. Instead you proceed as if it did blindly.

Nope. YOU have failed to show even a tid-bit of evidence that there ever was any other nature, and instead blindly assert it with no evidence whatsoever to support it. Creationist "science" at it's best.

When you assert something like a different nature, the onus is on you to show that there ever was a different nature, and to support that with objective empirical evidence. All you do is ride in on your one-trick pony and dump a load of shinola assertions that is pure fantasy without a fact to be found. The void sucks your argument away because you failed at the first, failed again every post since, and continue to fail to provide contrary evidence.

Without contrary evidence, ALL the evidence known shows natural processes proceeding naturally into the past as far back as we can test and verify. There is no known point at which it changes. You have shown no evidence to think otherwise.

AND you have verified this by your failing to even attempt to explain the correlations, even the most basic correlations.

The correlations win again.

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Message 1238 of 1269 (844407)
11-29-2018 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1235 by creation
11-29-2018 2:41 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
The shocked quartz markings at the crater were what I was talking about.

http://craterexplorer.ca/shock-metamorphism/


Okay, so you're going to show us how 'upward directed impacts' form by presenting a website that shows no such thing.

You attempt to show us 'striations' related to impacts by presenting an article that says nothing about striations.

You present a website that you have no capability of discussing.

Thank you for confirming that your whole scenario of time, life and geological processes is based on total and unadulterated ignorance.

And no, the great extinction of the flood was not my idea. Nor where the bible says the flood waters came from.

Well, no one else here is professing these notions.

In case you didn't notice.


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Message 1239 of 1269 (844408)
11-29-2018 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1233 by creation
11-29-2018 2:24 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
Why would they not...why would they...both are questions above the pay grade and knowledge and depth of present day science!

You are evading. Answer the question.

Since trees grew in weeks in the former nature of the bile (also the future nature interestingly) and man lived about 1000 years, and evolving was fast fast fast fast, it seems logical to rule out present genetics!

Unsupported fake premises.

If this is all you have, you make a mockery of YEC.

But since science doesn't know, it is a matter of belief not knowledge or present science.

If science doesn't know something, that makes you correct. Is that your logic?

Does Arkham know that you are on the loose?


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Message 1240 of 1269 (844411)
11-29-2018 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1231 by creation
11-29-2018 2:17 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
creation writes:

It was to prevent the CREATED KINDS placed on the ark from dying!


There is no such thing as "created kinds" in the Bible. Genesis 6:20 specifically mentions different kinds of cattle. If there was only one "created kind" that included cattle, there would have been no need for different kinds of cattle on the ark.

creation writes:

Who says all the animals that evolved/adapted from created kinds in the 16 centuries before the flood got to come?


God did - "every living thing of all flesh" (Genesis 6:19)

But this thread is for you to show your ignorance of dating methods. You can show your ignorance of the Bible in another thread.


And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1241 of 1269 (844434)
11-29-2018 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1236 by creation
11-29-2018 2:44 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
creation writes:

Naturally a godless fable would say nothing of the flood. They try to explain things under their religious paradigm.

So, a godless religious paradigm? Are you daft?

creation writes:

They have no ability to think out of the box.

You have demonstrated that you cannot even define religion. So basically, you cannot even find the box.

You still cannot understand, let alone answer the correlations that prove an ancient Earth. Your case is hopeless.


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Message 1242 of 1269 (844487)
11-30-2018 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1237 by RAZD
11-29-2018 3:12 AM


Re: ... Still so wrong -- the correlations win again
When I show that science doesn't know what nature existed the onus is on them to prove the one they claim existed. Obviously.
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Message 1243 of 1269 (844488)
11-30-2018 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1238 by edge
11-29-2018 10:27 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
The point you ignore is that the evidence of shocked quartz seems to be nothing more than evidence that something hit the rocks real fast...whether from below or above is the question it does not answer. Does it?
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Message 1244 of 1269 (844489)
11-30-2018 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1239 by edge
11-29-2018 10:37 AM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
To declare the recorded growth rates of tree in the ancient world 'fake' you would need some proof that the current nature existed then. You have none, rendering your claims fake news.
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Message 1245 of 1269 (844490)
11-30-2018 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1243 by creation
11-30-2018 9:24 PM


Re: Correlation validation by Egyptian Chronology
The point you ignore is that the evidence of shocked quartz seems to be nothing more than evidence that something hit the rocks real fast...whether from below or above is the question it does not answer. Does it?

All you show here is that you have not read my previous posts.

This has nothing to do with shocked quartz.


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