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rm2013
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Message 286 of 295 (460579)
03-16-2008 6:15 PM


Kids and internet porno
OK, this is my 1st reply, and I am going to weigh in on this topic first
The topic of kids gaining access to net porn has been a sticky issue, lets say, since the 1990's when the net was just gaining steam. In point of fact, internet porno has led to the most innovative of web purchase, and secure socket layers, as well as proof of age for a get one pass, get all passes websites.
That being said, parents need to allow an unsupervised kid alone on line for about as long as they would leave a 2 year old alone in a 1%er biker bar (No insult to bikers, I'm one). How long is that? less than a millisecond.
Home computers should be out in the open, in the living room along with the TV, Stereo, etc. You do not want to allow any access in areas that could allow the monitor to be hidden from view. The PC is not the same safe babysitter as the TV's were for our (My generation- the 60's up to mid late 70's) generation. Nowadays parents can use a V-Chip
or other control program to mediate access to what channels and at one time.
The parent MUST be online when the child is online, and for no more than a previously determined time limit. PC time can be used as a leveraging tool to get kids to do chores more often and better than they had before. If the PC is taken off line (Unplugging the modem
to disconnect from the Net), then your child can play games that you feel are safe, after having inspected them, and seen a level being played.
make sure if you have adult entertainment on your machine, it would be a wise idea to encrypt the folder with a quality encryption program
to keep it from all sorts of prying eyes.
Once again, a time limit, reward points and open access must be the first keys to healthy PC experiences for kids.
Now on to the 2nd point;
As a young kid, my friends and I were always very curious about sex. In my home it was a Roman Catholic Verboten subject. So I was overjoyed to find tons of old playboys and other primitive porno
stashed downstairs in the garbage area of the basement.
All kids will have a curiosity about sex from an early age. They will begin to wonder where they came from. The "Stork" story just doesn't
cut it anymore. A subject such as sex is a touchy issue for many parents, either due to sheer ignorance, or some sort of 'guilt' or 'sin' of talking about it.
The worst kind of encounter is when the parents issue threats and
sarcastic comments about "You'll have the rest of your life to learn about it when you are an adult" and the ever popular; "If I hear you got a girl pregnant, I'll bust your head", or "If you get pregnant young lady, you'll be grounded until you're thirty".
There are many good books out there that have been tailored to a variety of age and maturity group concerning the creative process.
the more you hide information from kids, the greater their curiosity
will be. If your son, and to a much lesser extent, or daughter, gets stifled by your reticence to discuss such issues, they will have to rely on their friends, whose parents might be more lax in the kids use of the WWW, and be able to find porno within seconds of going online.
Most parents, due to inhibitions they allowed themselves to be cornered with, try to rely on "Keep in in your pants guy" mentality.
Abstinence only works for a while. When the hormones start dumping
into those young IGNORANT kids, all bets are off. They will have no reliable information and believe rumor instead of fact:
Oh, if I douche with a bottle of coca-cola after sex, I won't get preggers.
Oh, I am too young to get a baby in my belly.
Hey, if I masturbate before I sleep with this hottie, my sperm will be tired and not be able to get her pregnant.
Oh, dont mind those pimple looking things on my shaft/my labia; thats just from sweating.
Ignorance in the realm of parents not providing true accurate information on STDS and pregnancy will have 1 in 4 girls getting an
STD, will result in teen pregnancies, or other sad life changing events.
Young kids do not need to have their sex education come in the form of Sylvia Saint or Tannia Russof acting with big john stud with a baseball bat hanging in between his legs. Such exposure can lead to
jealousy or fear that they wont be able to perform like the actress or actor.
If they get exposed to some of the rougher fare, that may confuse them even further, as they might then form the opinion that girls like to be choked, or smacked, or spit upon, and thats the way they might approach one of their first sex encounters, which could traumatize
either or both parties.
So, in closing may I sum up by saying:
If you spend time on the PC with your child, that will lead to your kids trusting you because you have an active interest in their lives
Even though you might turn the PC off so the kids can't access the net when you are not home, or have powerful Nanny Software that monitors or controls the types of sites they see, or go to, it is still possible for your innocent kids to go to another kids house to see whatever they want.
Get to know the parents of the kids whom your kids will be spending time with, see how or where they have their PC set up, and make your concerns voiced about your desires concerning kids access to the Net unattended.
Don't wait til you have to be reactive to a situation that is already been breached. Be PROACTIVE by taking necessary steps to ensure
your kids mental and psychological health is guarded against toxic exposure to adult materials.
Don't bother trying to place the blame on the online adult industry
if your kid has an experience that you would rather them not have.
The responsibility rests entirely upon the parents and the parents of your kids friends to keep adult materials away from kids.
Be honest and as open as you can when the questions start coming. If you hide behind some rhetoric to try and escape the situation, you open the doors to making your kid trust you less, because they think you.
Internet porn is for adult enjoyment only. You as a parent must make sure it stays that way!
are trying to hide something from them.

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Message 287 of 295 (460585)
03-16-2008 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by rm2013
03-16-2008 6:15 PM


Re: Kids and internet porno
Yeah, remind me again why it's bad for kids to have porn?
Anyway, kids today have it easy, with the internet and all. When I was a kid, we had to put a bit of effort into getting our porn!

Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand; it is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy. -- Wendell Berry

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Message 288 of 295 (460586)
03-16-2008 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by Chiroptera
03-16-2008 8:33 PM


Re: Kids and internet porno
You guys had it easy. I saw my first porn when I was 18. Yes, I was still a virgin.

Thou shalt accept Prometheus as thy savior for HE is the true light of Humanity and the World.

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RAZD
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Message 289 of 295 (460589)
03-16-2008 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by rm2013
03-16-2008 6:15 PM


Re: Kids and internet porno
Welcome to the fray rm2013,
...
So you are saying that full and open sex education, including the proper use of prophylactics, is recommended so that kids are not confused or exposed to "life changing events" through naivete or ignorance.
Perhaps some internet resources on the level of "Joy of Sex" and "More Joy of Sex" so that kids (and confused adults) can get good information on how to bring pleasure to your partners.
Enjoy.

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PapaTed71
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Message 290 of 295 (510197)
05-28-2009 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by berberry
02-24-2004 2:19 AM


I began watching pornography at the age of 9 my father gave me the collection he had accrued and explained to me what it was for and how i should go about viewing it. Since at the time it was illegal but also at the time I was maturing physically so he decided not to wait until i was 13( when he started). Yes i hit puberty at 9 1/2- 10 i began having crazy fantasies of women and i didn't know why. All i could do was gawk at women and think of their naked forms i had no knowledge of sex prior to my fathers expertise so at the time i was also completely unsure why it was happening. I thought that i had gone crazy and turned into a psycho perv because i remember people like your self who say that enjoyment of sexuality is horrible and that sex is damaging(whether scientist of theologan) and it needs to be regulated. My god its a natural funtion of being a living being. It occours all around and ev en within us Trillions of times a day. My grades and attitude shifted radically. I became depressed unsure of the goodness of my heart thinking ihad turned into a monster i lost the will for life itself. Finally my dad asked what was going on and I broke down and confessed how i had been hidding all these horrible hidden desires and that i belonged in hell. But he settled me down ad set me straight. And that is why You will never help anyone cause your trying to control peoples lives instead of guide them which is the parents or legal guardians job anyway. Another reason that God isn't constantly showing up and making us abide by his rules. Cause he's fuckin smart like that. he knows humanity is like a mule that if you pull his reins he;s just gonna dig his hooves in, but if you place a carrot before him you can direct his moement thusly. Nothing you do will help. Only the people in the lives of the people being afffected can. You will just agitate people to the point of breaking so please if care at all about humanity stop villifying sex and Stick to trying to control only those in your immediate life who probably hate you. In fact you should probably be spending this time to talk with your loved ones if you have any left and salvage whats may still be left of your broken relationships. Then maybe your only true friend wouldn't be a dog. Although he/she looks pretty cool in those shades and leather jacket. And Please don't think I was just trying to break you down i really care about where what your after will lead an that is only to loliness and a lack of satisfation even if you succeed in rallying support for this "cause", which is no cause for concern, you will only really succede in alienating even more people.
Edited by PapaTed71, : No reason given.

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PapaTed71
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Message 291 of 295 (510365)
05-30-2009 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 290 by PapaTed71
05-28-2009 5:40 PM


This message was written not by me(as i am now) but by the young boy who felt villified for his desires. I apologize in attacking you so ferociously and hope that my comments about your personal life in no way cause yu distress or pain. I ismply felt so strongly that reason itself left me. I still stand by my beleif that what your doing will create nothing positve simply because of how humanity is wired, but fuck what i have to say and do exactly what you think is right just try and be a little more open minded about how you go about it than I was. Again I am deeply sorry for the mean and hateful things i said. Please forgive me. Goodbye.

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Message 292 of 295 (510367)
05-30-2009 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 291 by PapaTed71
05-30-2009 11:14 AM


If you're expecting a reply from Berberry, he's not an active participant here anymore. The message you replied to is from five years ago.
--Percy

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Peter
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Message 293 of 295 (602207)
01-26-2011 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Riley
03-27-2004 1:41 AM


Sorry for replying to an ancient message
... so the children were being taught to behave violently by seeing violence praised?
How is that used to show a link between the media alone and violent behaviour?

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Peter
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Message 294 of 295 (602208)
01-26-2011 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by RAZD
03-26-2004 12:02 PM


Re: acting out
People throughout the ages have enacted atrocities on one another .... long before there were video games and movies.
Perhaps we should also be looking to novels and cave paintings for excuses for our inability to tame the barbarous, savage nature of humanity.

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onifre
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Message 295 of 295 (602216)
01-26-2011 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by RAZD
03-25-2004 11:59 AM


Re: acting out
Hi RAZD,
I'm curious if after almost 7 years, you still feel video games contribute to youth violence? (If that was your position)
- Oni

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