D&D and satanisim

Phatboy writes:

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This appeals to freethinkers everywhere! Nobody wants to be accountable to a Deity!

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Huh? Since when did not bowing down to you meant that a person isn't accountable to god? You seem to think that the freethinker is a nihilist. Have you considered the possibility that god will take care of the freethinker and doesn't need you trying to butt in where you were expressly told you have no business being? Judge not, and all that.

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heroes...such as Jesus...who are humble and bow to a superior source?

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Oh, please. Jesus was a big ole egotist. Always me, me, me. What you did unto the least of them, you also did unto ME. No way to salvation except through ME. I will do this. I will do that. I am the way, the truth, and the light.Sheesh...he claimed that he was god! How much bigger of an ego can you get? When doctors get this god complex, we note that they are mentally unstable. Maybe that was why Jews kept insisting that the Messiah was not god but a man. Anybody who thinks he is god has something wrong going on.

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There is no such thing as neutral. For or against. Black or white. No middle ground.

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You know it, so say it along with me:Logical error: Excluded middle. Heck you even admit that there is a middle ground: So which is it? Can something be neither inherently evil or good, thus neutral, or is that impossible?[Topic: Just started a GURPS Infinite Worlds campaign. He's a 17th Century French courtier. Part of the schtick is that he can drop his accent whenever he wants.]

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Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Phatboy responds to me:

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So which is it? Can something be neither inherently evil or good, thus neutral, or is that impossible?

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You would be neutral based on what you know.

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Ah, so you're contradicting your earlier claim that neutrality is impossible. Thanks.[Ob Topic: Any suggestions on developing a GURPS Infinite Worlds character? I'm going for the Avengers concept. He's a crack shot (pistol and rifle at 15, grenade launcher at 14), has some Sex Appeal, Appearance, and Savoir Faire (High Society). He's been trained to be the group's medic, and I'm trying to think what would be the best long term strategies. I'm going to bump his Strength up to 11 since he seems to be the one that has to carry around the weapons and that'd help not weigh him down, but his big traits are Dex (13) and Int (11). I'm thinking that Diplomacy, Acting, possibly picking up Fast Talk. Anybody else find use in the character that tries the human factor first before bringing out the guns but can drop you in a heartbeat with that gun if talking fails?]

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Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Phatboy responds to me:

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Ah, so you're contradicting your earlier claim that neutrality is impossible.

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No, Rrhainman! I am clarifying my position. Neutrality is impossible for a believer but not for a relativist who refuses to bow to any absolute not defined by themself.

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But that isn't what you originally said.Besides, even if you are trying to claim that you were only talking about the occult, how does one explain Joseph's occult interpretation of dreams?

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You have claimed to be a "believer" in the past.

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Incorrect. I have never claimed to believe or not believe. I have simply said that my lack of belief in a specific version of a category does not indicate I have no belief in the entire category.F'rinstance, I don't like okra. That doesn't mean I don't like all vegetables.

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How do you put it?
That you just believe in god but not MY god?

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No, that isn't what I say at all. What I say is that just because I don't believe in your god doesn't mean I don't believe in any god.Note, this doesn't mean I do believe in god. You, after all, are in the same position as an atheist with regard to all of the other gods you don't believe in.

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You have yet to describe your "god" to us, and I suspect it is because this god concept is really framed by your own logic.

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Incorrect. I have yet to describe whether or not I believe in god at all. I have specifically refrained from doing so in order to ensure people cannot claim, "You only say that because you're an X."After all, truth is not beholden to whether or not I believe something. If life evolved, then life evolved with or without me.

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In other words, you are a deity within your own mind. If I am wrong, kindly explain your deity to the rest of us.

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(*chuckle*)I have claimed to be god, but that was to point out that someone couldn't show I wasn't.

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Many fundies who claim to know God make this mistake and are far worse than you are at it.

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Since I have never claimed to know god, I wouldn't know.

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Am I correct in assuming that you believe human wisdom to be the origin of all concepts and beliefs?

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I refuse to say.

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Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

crashfrog responds to me:

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A dashing swordsman with an eye for the ladies? Damn you! That's the role I was born to play.

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Well, more pistols than swords, but that's the general concept.Of course, sex appeal can have its problems. At one point, I had to tell a character that I need to talk to him about something important that cannot be discussed here..."And it is not that I love you."In a French accent.We had a good laugh.I've given him the perk/quirk combination that he has alcohol tolerance but only drinks the best. So he got to spend some time chatting up the barrista at the local coffee shop in order to get a decent cafe americaine.

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Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

custard responds to me:

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You bastard. I actually spit coughed my coffee onto the keyboard when I read this.

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You now owe me $39.95.

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Ah, see, that's why I use the Virtually Indestructible Keyboard (available at your local Radio Shack...or, at least, that's where I got mine.) The keyboard is completely encased in rubber. You can spill anything you want on it and it won't hurt it. And when you need to clean it, you can dip the whole thing in water.

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Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!