Young earth creationism is valid and the macroevolutionary hypothesis is not valid

TO: ALL PROFESSED MATERIALIST, a compromiseThe Bible has God saying that He is will destroy the vain knowledge of men that is false knowledge (see Paul's first letter to the Corinthians). I find it humorous that some materialist have resorted to stating that everything came from nothing because science has cornered them.Some materialist seem to be saying, "There is nothing that supports the philosophy of materialism because everything ultimately came from nothing." I am willing to meet such materialist half way and I offer a compromise. I am willing to say that "There is nothing that supports materialism." In short, materialism has no real foundation. It is a philosophy that some insist is literally founded on nothing even though it violates the law of the conservation of matter and energy and logic itself.Sincerely,Ken[This message has been edited by kendemyer, 03-20-2004]

Is this logical?Materialism is true if horses have four legs
Horses have four legs
Materialism is trueLogic is a great thing, you can have hours of fun with it, and it can ultimatley be a load of bull Brian.

Oh I got another one.All fairytale books begin with the words 'in the beginning'.
The Bible starts with the words' in the beginning'
The Bible is a fairytale book.Damn it, cannot do the wee 'therefore' symbol Brian.

To: BrianIf you want to know why the real estate transaction resembles Hittite customs then I refer you to McDowell's New Evidence that Demands a Verdict which further elaborates although I am guessing it does not elaborate in full but probably covers the main reason why. I also believe you could benefit by reading Kitchen's new book.I also believe that you hid behind Asgara's skirt in our Jonah debate. If you were a real man, perhaps you asked Percy to reopen it. I honestly am hoping you were a real man, but I do not know if you were. Again, I have no problem with a forum just stating one view and honestly can see some benefit to this in some cases, but I still think you hid behind Asgara's skirt in our Jonah debate at EvcForum. I will also say that I do enjoy the Brian/Kendemyer debates more than I do others at this forum. You at least try. In short, I respect the "Sauls" even if they have a zeal but not according to knowledge. I do think though that Saul was acting more according to his conscience though than you have in our debates, however.Sincerely,Ken[This message has been edited by kendemyer, 03-20-2004]

To: BrianPlease reexamine this premise:"Materialism is true if horses have four legs"Sincerely,Ken

Ken you mean you do not know what the real estate transactions of the Hittites are?It doesn't really surprise me that you continue to make claims in areas where you have no idea what you are talking about.As for Kitchen, I am very familiar with a lot of his work.Why are you reading Josh Macdowell? Why dont you read academic literature?Can I say again, we were not having a debate on the Jonah thread, I was pointing out where you could improve your essay, I had no intention of disproving anything you had written, in fact, you contradicted yourself so much that you disproved yourself many times.Why would I need to hide behind Asgara's skirt? Am I not a moderator on that forum too Ken?There was nothng to hide from anyway as I was only trying to help you out.Ken, I could reopen the Jonah thread myself, but you need to prove to the site owner that you can debate in good faith, this does not include the endless posting of links without any summary of the site.Finally, I am more than capable of defending myself, even your fellow Christians agreed how poor the essay was.Anyway, I got a nice chilled San Miguel here, and a very large glass of 25 year old Highland Park, so pull up a chair and have a drink, and stop moaning.Brian.

Please consider the following list of logical connections, and point out which part you do not agree with.1: The universe behaves in a specific and measurable way.Therefore2: If our ways of measuring are correct, what we measure must be the way the universe behaves.3: We have measured matter and anti-matter spontaneously appearing in the universe.Therefore4: If our measurements are done correctly, matter can spontaneously appear.So, what we should do is do as many well thought out experiments as possible, and let them be open for others to examine, in order to determine what is correct, instead of what we wish to be correct.

"Materialism is true if horses have four legs"what's wrong with it ?

To: Brian1. McDowell cites a scholarly souce in his updated book regarding Hittites.2. McDowell speaks in classrooms.3. It is the validity of information that is important and not the source (academic literature). You are using a genetic logical fallacy.Sincerely,Ken

There are horses which, due to various reasons (accidents, birth defects), does not have 4 legs.

To: Melchiorre: "3: We have measured matter and anti-matter spontaneously appearing in the universe."I think the above premise is false and the law of the conservation of matter and energy has better support.Sincerely,Ken[This message has been edited by kendemyer, 03-20-2004]

Hi, CrashFrog.I recall that Godel also proved that you cannot prove that any axiomatic system of sufficient power to represent number theory is self-consistent. So, hidden in our laws of logic there may ultimately be an inconsistency.Once again the laws of logic shows the imperfection of being the invention of mortal humans.

1. Who is his source and what does it say?2. Ken I speak in classrooms five days a week, and two afternoons a week in a university lecture theatre, what is your point?3. Yes, and you haven't validated a thing in all the time you have been at EvC, you should follow your own advice.So why do you read Macdowell and not academic literature?Brian.

I believe man has shown himself to be depraved and illogical in human history. The Bible's statements regarding sin has excellent corrobative evidence in history. It does not surprise me that materialist have abandoned logic and science.Sincerely,Ken

Hiya,Yes, but that is not how a horse is defined.Anyway, for my premise to stand, I only need one horse with four legs, when one is found with less than four legs, I can just change my premise, a bit like we have to do when new finds contradict historical theories.Brian.