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A reply to message #156, please.

That's pretty big of you, kendemyer, but I think I have said all that needs to be said in these two posts. If you think that the "gotcha" you came up with is significant, well, there's nothing more I can say.

TO: Lindum I thought I was too assertive in our last exchange. I could have been more diplomatic. I apologize.TO: Schafinator Martyr showed commitment and sincerity. This shows some Christians believe. I believe mikethewhiz already wrote on this. I have no further comments. Justincy You wrote regarding professed atheists:

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"Why would they sacrific prodigous amounts of time defending it against bigots...."

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I do not think you were consistent in regards to "skepticism/professed atheism" in regards to professed atheism let alone showed bigotry although I would admit that some professed atheist are treated unkindly. But most people professing things are sometimes treated unkindly. We still need to address why they are professing their assertions.In addition, I am not a big advocate of political correctness. For example, if someone disagrees with a position of another it does not mean they are intolerant. For example, if I have some doubts that "true atheism" exists then to call me a bigot you would need to be intolerant of my doubts. In short, one man's bigot is another man's "righteous advocate" so to speak. Of course this has limits and I would of course be against physical violence or talk of physical violence although I do believe in the concept of a just war (WWII for example). TO: chiroptera You made two misreprentations. I then implied it might be intentional. You then misrepresented what the Mayo Clinic said. Looking back I should have asked you after the third misrepresentation why this was occuring without implying it was intentional. I regret I took the course I did. My apologies.TO: ALL I think there is a wide gulf between Mike_the_whiz and myself and the professed atheist on this issue. I do believe, however, that the professed atheists/skeptics/materialist are not being consistent in the level of evidence they are trying to present.

To: kendemyerHave a happy labor day.

Hi Ken, No problem, Ken, don’t worry about it.Sadly, however, you failed to answer my question directly; studies etc., are not relevant to my beliefs since I was not a participant. Failure to present a witness more expert than my own pertaining to my (Lindum’s) beliefs, leaves me with no further option than to believe myself regarding my own beliefs. Unless you can present something beyond this, I am content in my atheism.Cheers.

TO: LindumI think you need to scroll back in this thread and see some recent post.You have not given the quality of evidence to show the world you are content with what you alledge. The consistency issue is still relevant.I also think you should read the ex professed atheist book by C.S. Lewis called "Suprised by Joy". To my knowledge there are no professed atheist holidays!

Jewish Comic:"I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up - they have no holidays."
-- Henny Youngman

Hi, Ken. Could you indicate a pertinent post for me? Thanks. I’ve no need to convince the world, my beliefs only concern myself. My lack of belief in god/s (a-theism) is unaffected, and I remain content with this. Still no superior witness to my (Lindum's) own beliefs than myself? I am not C.S. Lewis; I have my own view of the world. Public holidays are of no relevance to my beliefs. I remain an atheist, and content at that.Cheers.

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Martyr showed commitment and sincerity. This shows some Christians believe.

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But it does not show that these Christians were actually killed because they were Christians and not for some other reason.Where is your specific evidence?

Ken,Do christians ever waver in their beliefs?

We know that Christ did.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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I do not think you were consistent in regards to "skepticism/professed atheism" in regards to professed atheism let alone showed bigotry although I would admit that some professed atheist are treated unkindly. But most people professing things are sometimes treated unkindly. We still need to address why they are professing their assertions.

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In addition, I am not a big advocate of political correctness. For example, if someone disagrees with a position of another it does not mean they are intolerant. For example, if I have some doubts that "true atheism" exists then to call me a bigot you would need to be intolerant of my doubts. In short, one man's bigot is another man's "righteous advocate" so to speak. Of course this has limits and I would of course be against physical violence or talk of physical violence although I do believe in the concept of a just war (WWII for example).

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Is it possible for you to actually address the main points of my post instead of going of on a tangent about what is or is not a bigot?

TO: schafinatorI aleady adressed this. At this point the question is which is stronger your persistence or my righteous obstinantcy standing my ground. I think in this case the immovable object will win over the irrestable force!Sincerely,Ken

I meant to type: irresistable

Justincy,I do not think we are going to be able to gulf the chasm in our stated positions. I prefer to agree to disagree in our public statements at this point.Sincerely,Ken