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Author Topic:   Fundamentalism and the True Christian
Intelligitimate
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Message 16 of 21 (99135)
04-10-2004 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by berberry
04-10-2004 7:20 PM


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Most of us are not out to destroy religion. Some are, I'll grant you, and Stalin was a supreme example.
This is simply not true. Read Janz's World Christianity and Marxism, it is free if you know where to look.

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crashfrog
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Message 17 of 21 (99138)
04-10-2004 8:35 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Intelligitimate
04-10-2004 12:13 PM


I've already discussed this issue and referenced relevant articles in peer-reviewed journals like the Slavic Review.
Right, but that's buried in some other thread. In a fresh thread, we'd have no trouble locating that citation for future reference, you know?
I have no problem discussing anything in this thread or in the other threads I have posted in.
It's not generally on topic in those threads, nor in this one. Anyway it sounds like a great Coffeehouse topic to me.
Frankly, most people who make those claims don't even know how those figures are arrived at in the first place, so there usually isn't anything to talk about.
That's why I think it would be such a fascinating thread. Personally I know nothing of how those figures would be calculated, erroneous or not, so a deeper exploration of the issue is something I'd be very interested to read.
I'm not trying to offer this as criticism of your posting style or anything like that, but rather, to suggest that you have an opportunity here to set us straight and inform us. I know that I for one would very much appreciate your efforts if you decided to do so, but, of course, it's up to you.

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Intelligitimate
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Message 18 of 21 (99155)
04-10-2004 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by crashfrog
04-10-2004 8:35 PM


If you want to start a topic in the Coffee House forum, you can do so and I'll respond to it.

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kofh2u
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Joined: 04-05-2004


Message 19 of 21 (99172)
04-11-2004 1:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by berberry
01-16-2004 1:55 AM


Oscam's Razor will out in the end...
Before I offer the support of a short couple of verses from scripture, may I interject two ideas which premise a perspective that avoids the very type of interdenominational debate evidence in this thread?
1) The assumption that one makes concerning the English word "God," as regards what a God is,... pre-sets the psychology by which people later discover complications impossibly difficult to align with the rest of scripture.
The statement, for instance, that the first bible (Old Testament) necessarily must become subordinate to the second bible (New Testament) in order to avoid contradictions is what I mean.
2) A definition of God, the Father of the universe, the Almighty, which allows for no such lack of congruence between both bibles seems, by the rule of Oscam's Razor to be the correct and proper translation and interpretation.
Consider this verse from Genesis:
Gen. 1:26 And God, (The Universal Force, the Macrocosmos), said, "Let us, (the Natural Laws), make man, (a conscious mind, to model us, the Universe, as in a Microcosmos of his mind, in order that our image might be modeled after our own orderly organization): and let him (that conscious mind,) have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
Gen. 1:27 So God (The Universal Force) created man (an abstract mind in his own image, enabled to image The Universal Force, abstractly and mathematically), so created God (The Universal Force) him; male and female created he them.

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berberry
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Message 20 of 21 (99183)
04-11-2004 3:54 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Intelligitimate
04-10-2004 7:30 PM


What point are you arguing? The one about Stalin or the one about passive atheists? Both?

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Intelligitimate
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Message 21 of 21 (99199)
04-11-2004 7:45 AM
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04-11-2004 3:54 AM


Stalin.

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