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Author Topic:   I read both Christ and the Antichrist in my KJ Bible. Do you?
ICANT
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Message 31 of 57 (449536)
01-18-2008 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Greatest I am
01-18-2008 9:13 AM


Re: Re-Idiotic scripture
Hi GIA,
Greatest I Am writes:
You believe in the talking snake don't you?
Why are you asking me a question in response to a message in which I answered the question that you are asking?
You must be having fun already,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Greatest I am
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Message 32 of 57 (449537)
01-18-2008 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by ICANT
01-18-2008 9:57 AM


Re: Re-Idiotic scripture
Just my way of kissing you off.
Regards
DL

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Message 33 of 57 (449551)
01-18-2008 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Greatest I am
01-18-2008 9:16 AM


Re: Biblical Antichrist
The Hebrew language has far fewer words than the English. My understanding is that the same word is used for capital punishment as for murder. The context determines the type of killing being addressed.
The context of the Ten Commandments would be the equivalent in English to "You shall not murder." This is logical and sensible, given God commanded the killing of sacrificial animals etc.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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ICANT
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Message 34 of 57 (449552)
01-18-2008 10:46 AM
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01-18-2008 10:11 AM


Re: Re-Idiotic scripture
GIA,
Greatest I Am writes:
Just my way of kissing you off.
And I thought you were only trying to be as bright as my class of 10 year olds.
Have fun,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ringo
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Message 35 of 57 (449565)
01-18-2008 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Greatest I am
01-18-2008 9:07 AM


Greatest i Am writes:
Your still ignoring my question on the quote I used. Do you think it something you would endorse?
Of course I wouldn't endorse it.
But the topic is about the source of the quote.
I'm saying it isn't Christ or Antichrist. It's purely human.

“If you had half a brain, wouldn't you have realized after the second time, that it was you, not God?” -- riVeRraT (see context here)
“The endearing controvertist! One needs to become acute in the ploys of his kind.” -- ThreeDogs

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Greatest I am
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Message 36 of 57 (449585)
01-18-2008 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw
01-18-2008 10:43 AM


Re: Biblical Antichrist
The question pops to mind, would a law maker break His own laws. It certainly appears that God did a number of times. Right up to the genocidal flood.
If God is to be our example of good action, He sure is giving a bad one.
Then again, if you are to believe in talking snakes it is easy to forgive God a genocide or two against helpless humans.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 37 of 57 (449586)
01-18-2008 12:27 PM
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01-18-2008 10:46 AM


Re: Re-Idiotic scripture
I hope none of them are unruly. I hope you do not keep stones in the class.
Regards
DL

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Message 38 of 57 (449589)
01-18-2008 12:30 PM
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01-18-2008 11:29 AM


That being the case and since most recognize the absurdity of that scripture, would you like to speculate as to why it was included in the selection of scripture.
Could it have been just to activate debate?
Regards
DL

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ringo
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Message 39 of 57 (449594)
01-18-2008 12:45 PM
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01-18-2008 12:30 PM


Greatest I Am writes:
That being the case and since most recognize the absurdity of that scripture, would you like to speculate as to why it was included in the selection of scripture.
Could it have been just to activate debate?
No.
You can see from the responses of Buzsaw and ICANT that people do take that passage and others like it seriously. It would have been irresponsible of the Bible writers/compilers to include such absurdity "just to activate debate" when they should have known some people would take it in the stupidest possible way.
The more reasonable conclusion is that they meant it in the stupidest possible way.
They meant what they said, so everything they said has to be scrutinized even more closely. But there's no reason to think they wanted us to scutinize them more closely.

“If you had half a brain, wouldn't you have realized after the second time, that it was you, not God?” -- riVeRraT (see context here)
“The endearing controvertist! One needs to become acute in the ploys of his kind.” -- ThreeDogs

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 40 of 57 (449600)
01-18-2008 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Greatest I am
01-17-2008 9:56 PM


But Jesus said that those old Jewish laws, like the one in the OP, were not correct and that there are only 2 real laws: Love god, and love youe neighbor as yourself.
The whole point Jesus was making was the god didn't write those laws.

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Greatest I am
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Message 41 of 57 (449643)
01-18-2008 3:30 PM
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01-18-2008 1:04 PM


You are not trying to tell us we cannot trust every word in the Bible are you?
Isn't it all the word of God?
Regards
DL

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 42 of 57 (449655)
01-18-2008 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Greatest I am
01-18-2008 3:30 PM


You are not trying to tell us we cannot trust every word in the Bible are you?
Sure, why not?
Isn't it all the word of God?
I don't know but I doubt it.

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Buzsaw
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Message 43 of 57 (449718)
01-18-2008 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Greatest I am
01-18-2008 12:26 PM


Re: Biblical Antichrist
Did you even read what I said? Why don't you address that?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 44 of 57 (449720)
01-18-2008 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by New Cat's Eye
01-18-2008 1:04 PM


OT NT
He didn't say that at all. He was introducing a new dispensation/era where the law was to be fulfilled by the indwelling Holy Spirit, i.e. his spirit.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Greatest I am
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Message 45 of 57 (449792)
01-19-2008 12:50 AM
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01-18-2008 8:30 PM


Re: Biblical Antichrist
Semantics. Death is death.
Regards
DL

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