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Author Topic:   Omniscience, Omnipotence, the Fall & Logical Contradictions.
override
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Message 237 of 354 (490654)
12-06-2008 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by mike the wiz
11-04-2006 3:49 PM


Hopefully I'm not too late into this, but can you elaborate more on your room analogy.
mike the wiz said:
"If you're in a room and you can choose from chocolate or fruit, and there's another room where you can choose the same, only in one room God is watching, would you choose differently?
No! Therefore we can infer that God's knowledge doesn't affect the individual's choice."
Do you mean, that what you do in one room will affect the other room? That if you choose the fruit in on room, you will also choose a fruit in the other room, or if instead you choose the chocolate in one room you will also choose a chocolate in the other room? But god is only in one room. I want you to elaborate, if you can.

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override
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Message 239 of 354 (490734)
12-07-2008 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Phat
12-07-2008 9:07 AM


Re: Depends on who God is to you
Um what? I just wanted to know what that person meant by his or her room analogy, because he or she claimed to have proven free will to be compatible with a self contradiction, omniscience-omnipotence.
I believe humanity was created by the ORI. Hallowed are the ORI

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override
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Message 242 of 354 (490742)
12-08-2008 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 241 by Blue Jay
12-08-2008 12:34 AM


quote:
Hi, Override. Welcome to EvC!
override writes:
Do you mean, that what you do in one room will affect the other room? That if you choose the fruit in on room, you will also choose a fruit in the other room, or if instead you choose the chocolate in one room you will also choose a chocolate in the other room?
It's a circular argument. Mikey used the assumption that we have free will to prove that we have free will. In a situation wherein God does alter our ability to choose, we very well might have chosen the chocolate in one room, and the fruit in the other. But, Mikey asserts that this won't happen, and holds this up as evidence that we have free will.
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Mikey used the assumption that we have free will to prove that we have free will.
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Mikey used the assumption that we have free will to prove that we have free will.
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Yeah, I know his or her argument was flawed, I just wanted him or her, to confirm. I didn't want to say something, and later on they will change it, that's what happened earlier in the post, when i was reading. Someone changed their argument. It seemed like he or she was talking about some sort of mirror situation, where if one thing happened in one room, the same will happen in the other, but that is god is only in one room. That would still prove that they had no choice in both rooms, because one room, is a mirror, or hologram of the other.

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