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What is Christianity?

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Message 59 of 451 (758482)
05-26-2015 9:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 58 by Phat
05-26-2015 8:07 PM

Re: Kudos to all
Some believed that salvation is achieved through trying our best to live up to the commandments. Others believe that salvation is a free gift from God.
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One side will argue that a human can never do enough to earn salvation. The other side will counter that we are still expected to try to do our best.
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Perhaps the key is found in the salvation itself. is it earned or is it given?
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If you work for an hour and earn $15, does your employer owe you the money?
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Message 61 of 451 (758484)
05-26-2015 10:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 60 by Phat
05-26-2015 9:59 PM

Re: Kudos to all
They have to pay you?
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Message 63 of 451 (758486)
05-26-2015 10:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 62 by Phat
05-26-2015 10:02 PM

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Of course they must pay us.
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Okay.
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So if you earn salvation, God must give it to you?
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Message 65 of 451 (758488)
05-26-2015 10:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 64 by Phat
05-26-2015 10:07 PM

Re: Kudos to all
The way that I was taught, it is impossible to earn salvation. Salvation is a free gift.
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Then whey did you ask:
Perhaps the key is found in the salvation itself. is it earned or is it given?
Seems you already had the answer.
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Message 67 of 451 (758499)
05-27-2015 8:46 AM 		Reply to: Message 66 by Phat
05-26-2015 10:39 PM

Re: Religion or Relationship.
I maintain that it is not a religion, but a relationship.
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A relationship with whom and for what purpose?
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Message 193 of 451 (760795)
06-25-2015 4:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 188 by ringo
06-25-2015 1:19 PM

Re: who is a doctor or a Lion or an Elk?
No matter how rabidly "evil" an authoritarian government was, its interest would still be in having the citizenry "get along".
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Really?
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Because sometimes when the people are too busy scuffling amongst themselves they can be trusted not to notice the large dick raping them in the bank.
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Message 205 of 451 (760835)
06-26-2015 7:15 AM 		Reply to: Message 204 by Faith
06-25-2015 10:14 PM

Re: still trying to define what Christianity is.
But JWs aren't Christians ...
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That's not what they think.
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Message 227 of 451 (761070)
06-27-2015 4:32 PM 		Reply to: Message 209 by herebedragons
06-26-2015 8:32 AM

Re: still trying to define what Christianity is.
Deleted... never mind; you found it on your own: Message 215
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Edited by Jon, : No reason given.
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