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Author Topic:   Validity of differing eyewitness accounts in religious texts
TheStudent
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Message 49 of 305 (202145)
04-25-2005 9:12 AM


there is a famous book of Hadith (sayings and actions attributed to Muhammed) by imam bukhari.
all of its entries were gathered from people who claim they had seen or heard muhammed. this collection of hadith was done under strict rules and conditions. people would be selected dependent on their reputation and faith in islam. there is a very strict science to it.also if imam bukhari found that a multitude of people told him the same saying of muhammed, then this would be deemed absoulutely true as it would be unlikely that a large group of people would transmit the same lie. also each before each hadith can be seen the name if the person who transmited it it has a strong 'chain of transmission'. for example:
'Narrated by Abdullah bin Yazid Al Ansari (Radhiallaho anho): The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) forbade robbery (taking away what belongs to others without their permission), and also forbade mutilation (or maiming) of bodies. Bukhari Vol. 3 : No. 654'
but even though there are hundreds of hadith in this one book, muslims do not deem them as holy or the words of God.they are mainly used to explain the verses of Quran in the prophets words, thus they are very important. infact there have been many times when hadith have been fasley attributed to the prophet to further the desires of men. the general rule is, if any hadith contradicts the Quran, it is false.
now we have the Bible. itself not the word of Jesus but was, as chrisitians admit, transmitted from person to person, the same as the collection of Hadith. itslef relied on eye witnesses and their truthfullness. but where is the 'science' of the collection of the bible? where is the 'chain of transmission'? i havent seen it. does it just rely on the claims of 4 main writers? who were they? what is their background? but the main question to ask is 'where they prophets?' did they speak DIRECT with God? No. they relied on the words of other men plus not forgetting the fact that early christians were killed as heretics and had their copies of scripture burned if it didnt agree with Pauls teachings. now, as some of the Hadith, they have become corrupted and used for the desires of men.
so as we can see the Bible is very different from the Quran but is infact similar to the collection of Hadith. the same hadith which we dont call HOLY. remember jesus didnt write ANY of the bible, yet you base your WHOLE belef on it and him. so can you call it authentic? that is for your conscience to decide.
and bear in mind, jesus may have raised the dead with permission from Allah, but the miracle of Muhammed, which is still apparent today and continually draws christians, jews and non-believers to it is the Quran. It is a miracle which is right in front of you. just read it.

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TheStudent
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Message 58 of 305 (202180)
04-25-2005 10:54 AM


on compilation of Imam Bukhari Book of Hadith-
'it took the noble writer a period of 16 years to gather the ahaadeeth and to write Bukhari Shareef which sets the date back to 217 A.H, as the year in which he started the compilation; Imam Bukhari (R.A) being merely 23 years of age.'
read about Bukhari and further details of the Hadith:
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