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Author Topic:   God and Satan
ringo
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Message 78 of 110 (776274)
01-11-2016 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Phat
01-11-2016 3:13 AM


Re: Re God and devil
Phat writes:
Good is the preferred state of affairs for humanity, and God meets and exceeds human awareness.
You contradict yourself. "Good" is defined in either human terms or in God's terms. You can't claim that "choosing" eternal torment is "good" for humanity.

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 99 of 110 (791534)
09-16-2016 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Phat
09-16-2016 7:43 AM


Re: Whoppers
Phat writes:
Ringo agrees with you. He thinks satan got a bad rap.
I think Satan is us.
You can say we "fell" from God's grace if you like but we actually grew up, not down. "Satan" is just the personification of our growing pains.

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 108 of 110 (823818)
11-17-2017 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Phat
11-17-2017 12:29 PM


Re: satan got a bad rap?
Phat writes:
You claim that Satan got a bad rap, as did humanity being blamed for original sin.
No. I said that "Satan" is us. you quoted me.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 402 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 110 of 110 (823927)
11-19-2017 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Phat
11-19-2017 9:54 AM


Re: satan got a bad rap?
Phat writes:
Well, I wonder if satan felt jealous when God abandoned him?
I don't see any point in discussing "Satan" as if he was an actual entity. There are several different Satans in the Bible, each adapted to a particular context. He's a plot device. Usually he's a foil used to present an alternative point of view. Sometimes he's more on God's side, sometimes less. Beyond the specific context of each story, he doesn't need to have feelings.

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