Politcally Correct Christ

Okay, you make assertions. We know you are very good at that. What interpretations? I simply report what Gensesis actually says. Yet more nonsense it seems. I don't try to prove anything. I simply present my best case for my position. I would hope others might do the same. The readers then can look at what is presented and make up their own minds as to what makes sense and what does not.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Robin. You have annoyed the Jello your trying to nail to a wall{abe: whenever you see a LOL you can be certain that this is what you have done){abe: I wonder why you never seem to try and nail me to a wall. You always seem to back off at critical moments. Getting some practice in?}Edited by iano, : No reason given.Edited by iano, : No reason given.Edited by iano, : No reason given.

Because you don't annoy me no end with a lot of perverted interpretations in which one injects pop psychology into an ancient book about blood sacrifice, that's why.Good grief, no wonder I drink.What a bunch of sophistry!

That could be read as spoiling for whatever fights-a-going. You (as well as I) know that what is being said by Jar is ridiculous - yet you try to pin him down. You know already you will retire frustrated from the weaving and dodging or your attempts will be followed by a thread end ( as this one is on course for) or a ban/rebuke when his mates step into the ring with some legalistic nonsense. You know all this...Yet you seem more content to exchange punches in Alice-in-Wonderland rather than get down to the nitty-gritty (albeit it, on first flush.. the greyer world) of real world.Jar and all that Jazz is simply temptation. It leads nowhere, resolves nothing. You have read The Screwtape Letters I presume? I had the audio book version where John Cleese (of Fawlty Towers fame) read.In describing Satans use of drugs as a tool of choice he illustrated as follows. The hook goes in and in the beginning there is pleaure only (much like I imagine drink and very much like I know dope). Bit by bit the pleasure (the intellectual jousting of EvC) is removed and all you are left with is the addiction - stripped of any pleasure. John Cleese gives a wicked cackle at this point in the audio book.Its like the pitcher plant. First the fly is attracted by the sweet nectar then after a while it 'realises' that the sweet nectar is actually the digestive juices of the plant. It started out as the the fly eating the plant then, imperceptibly things shifted and it was the the plant eating the fly.Such is Jar. Forget it. It only involves swallowing pride. Only...Heh

I asked iano: You had said in response to Brian that you follow all the laws he asked you about, but usually when you are sleeping. I asked for confirmation of what you really agreed to. Do you indeed follow the Rosh Hoshana law while you are sleeping?It's a strange picture.Here's what you said instead of answering: You agree with Jar yet again! Isn't that amazing?Jar does quote this formulation by Jesus and says being a Christian is as simple as that. Simple does not mean easy, he is always careful to note--another point on which you also clearly agree with Jar. But he does say that this summary catches it all (you agree) and that living by it is the work of a lifetime (you clearly agree).How refreshing to see you finally joining hand in hand with your beloved neighbor in true Christian concord. Lovely picture!You New Age sentimentalist you.And such a pretty color of Jell-O you bring to the wall.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

Yes, but jar's meaning has a modern twist quite different from the Biblical meaning.

More Hamster dancing from robinrohan it seems.Try this for a change. Try presenting the best case for YOUR position. Who knows, perhaps someone might even find it compelling.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Get a sense of humor will you? I break the law all day long except when I sleep (although one might argue about that too... if inclined) The law is summed up in two commandments so the specifics of any particular law is rendered within those two. Hardly. Jar considers law abiding (or rather; trying to law abide) as relevant to eternal destination. I do not. If amazed then argue it rather that assert it. Reading is clearly not your strong suit. But then again, you are relatively new here. In speaking to those I know, I assume an idea of where I am coming from. I will start from scratch for your benefit should you desire. Where would you like to get a toe in? You do realise you have said nothing concrete in this post. All assertion and no content. Archer... shoot straightEdited by iano, : No reason given.

But you don't talk like a nihilist at all. I know the real thing. You're not it.Every time I open one of your posts you are talking vintage fundie. Very literal, very concrete, all the same prejudices and blind spots. Showing not the slightest concern with flights of creo fancy like 'super-genomes' but very frustrated with Episcopalians (those radicals!) for not walking the straight and narrow according to you.I submit that the professed nihilism is false advertising. I submit that Robin is a fundie.The nihilist thing is a pose. One purpose it serves is to get Ian, Faith and the other members of your Fundie Family to chase Bad Little Robin around the board in an effort to save his immortal soul. Kind of like holding your breath until you turn blue. Sends Mom and Dad into a tizzy, doesn't it? One twitch of your eyebrow gives them hope, then you dash it by sweeping your food onto the floor. So much attention for Bad Little Robin! It must be quite the control trip.But it's kid stuff. You're not a nihilist.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

SCHRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAF. We got a gusher here!!! (in joke)Edited by iano, : No reason given.

Go on...

Ah, sophistry---the cornerstone of religion.(sample) I`ll match your interpretation and raise you two more interpretations and a partridge in a pear tree.Edited by Nighttrain, : ABE added 'sample' so Rob doesn`t think I`m on the attack

What on earth do you think a nihilist is? Believing that there is no meaning in life, as well as no God, that we're just here by accident on this burned-out planet, and everything that happens appears to be accidental and meaningless, isn't nihilism enough for you?Sure, there are other forms of nihilism, and Robin is tame by comparison. There are those who act it out more, who are willing to push the envelope to prove that there is no moral law for instance, violating all the commandments as an assertion of their meaninglessness and unreality.Would you call Nietzsche a nihilist? Isn't he reputed to have lived a pretty tame life?

Putting words in God's mouth is a practice that is hardly limited to the sentimental.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

Which suggests that the gunman intends to kill you and there is not a single thing you can do about it. The gunman is a psychopath, therefore you are making Jesus in to a psychopath.While it may be impossible to do the Big Ben jump, to do what Jesus asks is not impossible. The normal response would be to think "whata cruel evil bastard this person is". Then you would say "f*ck you asswipe, if you are going to kill me get it over with or I will rips your nads off". You certainly wouldn't get all deep and philosophical. Shit it certainly is! No sizzling for anyone Ian, heaven and Hell are fairytales. Of course you will. Jar will get the same treatment as I will, and the same treatment as Mother Teresa and Hitler and John Wayne and James Cagney and every other person who has died. I interpret that as a threat. What makes you think I have never cried "shit", and looked at my options? If convinced then you have something severely lacking in your life anyway. Christianity is so absurd that to be convinced you have to want to be convinced. You certainly do not believe in the God of the Old testament that's for sure! Yet the first commandments are pretty clear where God is to be, and it isn't last.Do you just make this stuff up, because it is in no way biblical? Thanks for continuing to convince me that I made the correct decision 20 years ago. So, you have (or believe you have) fulfilled the conditions that have moved you from being a son of Adam to a Son of Christ? You must have did something, either that or jesus has created people with the sole purpose of watching them burn.I could not become a Christian agai, I have been reborn, saved from the myth of Christ. Only when you are reborn can you see how deluded you once were. You too could be saved from the myth of Christ, you only have to have an open mind. So, there is a condition. God has to make you a Christian, and I take it that in order to make you a Christian you have carried out some action or actions that God believes earns you salvation?If God does goes around willy nilly picking people to be Christians, then Christianity is a farce.
But, seriously for a minute, what is it that you think Jesus has asked you to do that is so impossible?Brian.PS. Kuresu is defo going to Hell though, he ruined my chance to show off my Scrabble skills! Damn his eyes!!