God: Knowable or not Knowable?

I am like a cat. God is like a human. God wants to make me understand Them in all Their Godliness. What will God have to do to my ability to understand things before They can begin the information transfer? Before you enter EvC Chat, is there any special programs you need rst?I was speaking Cattish to my little kitten the other day. She understood everything I was saying, since I was capable of speaker her language, but she just couldn't get how on Earth it was easier to walk on two legs than on four. My kitten then asked, in Cattish, of course, how sitting at a table to eat could be better than the cement behind the garage. I tried to explain it to her... but again she just didn't understand.Why do you think my kitty had such troubles understanding what life was like for a human? Why would my kitty brush off the importance of the Hubble Telescope? What would I have to do to get my cat to understand?Jon

Cut the chase and get to the point.

Perhaps if you became a cat yourself!

Answer the questions. If you don't, I have no idea where you're coming from. If that is the case, I cannot get to the point in a way you will understand.Please, answer the questions.

So, then your solution would be to de-godify God? Hmm... very interesting, take on the issue.

Thats your assertion. Infinite value cannot be de-goddified.My analogy of course refers to Jesus.Surely GOD didn't need to send us His Son in order for Him to understand us better, however. It DID allow us to better understand Him. Through Jesus, we get a glimpse into how God thinks.

Good. We can understand Jesus the man. We can understand the humanly aspects of God. But, can we understand any more than that? If you were going to be in a relationship with someone, don't you think you'd need something slightly more than a "glimpse into how she thinks"? I mean, is a glimpse of an understanding really all that meaningful?Jon

I'm not comming from or going anywhere. My position is the same.If god is omnipotent then he has the power to be knowable.That is where I'm at. Would you care to repond to my argument? Try. Ugh. This isn't fun.

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I don't know. Yes. It lacks the mental cognizance and comprehension skills necessary for thought as complex as that. Because your kitty is unaware of the Hubble Telescope. Make it smarter.

How?

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

That is kinda typical. I hear that response quite often from other Christians; when they are asked to actually look at their believes, they would rather not.

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

, jar. There's nothing really to look at here. Its a simple definition of omnipotence. I have looked at my beliefs.You, of course, are free to believe whatever you want

But the issue is not related to what God can do. The issue is "What can you know?"If you say: then God might do something but we can not know that God did it?The whole thread is about whether God is knowable or not knowable. It's about what we can know.So again, how can we know that it is God?

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

How much smarter?

Using the cat analogy a bit more, lets assume that the cat will never understand the entire thought process of a human. In that regard, I agree with you. God is unknowable as far as being able to understand His thought process or reasoning.By becoming a cat, however, you could explore the house and the territory as a cat among cats. Some of them would get to know your feline personality. They would thus be able to know you as a cat but not as a human.So....I concede that we can know God as a human (Jesus) but not as GOD the Father.

So, then your relationship is not with God, but with some human incarnation? How, then, is it any more special than a relationship with any other human? Edited by Jon, : Asshole.