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Author Topic:   God caused or uncaused?
Taz
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Message 240 of 297 (418119)
08-26-2007 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 236 by Rob
08-26-2007 11:34 AM


rob writes:
ringo writes:
No. The physical world would stay together just fine even if nobody had ever had a notion about it.
You deny the laws of physics even though they are proven?
You don't believe in gravity?
Is gravity physical, or does it only affect the physical?
The laws of physics are not proven. Believing or disbelieving in gravity doesn't affect the fact that it's there. Gravity is not physical in the sense that you are thinking. It's physical in the sense that it affects everything, including light.
Evidence for god please.

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Taz
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Message 243 of 297 (418122)
08-26-2007 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 238 by Rob
08-26-2007 11:36 AM


rob writes:
So logic is proven to exist, because of the physical world. We can compare the two...
Whether logic really exists or not depends on one's opinion. It's a human invention to help us define consistencies within our own thought process.

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Taz
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Message 246 of 297 (418125)
08-26-2007 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 242 by jar
08-26-2007 11:41 AM


Re: False dichotomy.
jar writes:
Much of what we learn is not logical. Many things that are logically correct are also known to be wrong and you have been given numerous examples.
I tend to see logic as a tool for us to be consistent with ourselves and not as a mean to define the physical world. To use logic to define the physical world is like trying to detect cancer with a speed radar gun.

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