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Author Topic:   Which came first: the young earth, or the inerrant scripture?
nwr
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Message 80 of 161 (237412)
08-26-2005 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by hoaryhead
08-26-2005 11:48 AM


Re: Hoaryhead Answers Detractors
1) Evolution is not about the age of the earth - one detractor.
That's entirely correct. Evolution is not about the age of the earth.
3) The planet started out as a molten mass - another detractor.
What happened to the Big Bang Theory?
How the planet started out and how the cosmos started out, are two quite different matters. Don't confuse them.
4) One man denied that the "3 Rs" are science.
The university professors would not like people talking about their fields of experise in such a disrespectful manner.
As a university professor (and mathematician), I can assure you that I found nothing disrepectful in that comment. Indeed, mathematics is not a science.
Without the science of mathematics we would have no computers or Internet.
Nobody is denying the value and importance of mathematics. However, it just so happens that it is not a science.

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Message 97 of 161 (237695)
08-27-2005 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by hoaryhead
08-27-2005 12:04 PM


Re: How Is Evolution False?
For instance, Madame Curie won a Nobel Prize for her research in radiology (or, something similar). But I have read that she worked on a false premise. When this was discovered, they corrected the premise.
This is so vague, that we cannot tell what you are talking about.
Also in the Dark Ages, men had a premise in medicine for healing, which relieved much pain. [Forgive me, I have forgotten the title of the treatment.]
Likewise, this is far too vague to be useful.
And that is the reason that Evolution is wrong.
They don't throw anything out.
This is wrong. As one example, Darwin based his original account on a Lamarckian view of inheritance, which is now known to be wrong. The current theory of evolution is based on Mendelian inheritance.

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Message 106 of 161 (237808)
08-27-2005 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by hoaryhead
08-27-2005 6:48 PM


Re: Responses to Message #95
Charles Knight has corrected me, in that evolution (according to him) has changed from Lamarckian view to Mandelian inheritance.
No, that was me, not Charles Knight.
But Chioptera (#98) disagrees with him, saying that, "inheritance is independent of evolution."
He partially disagreed, with "This isn't quite correct." Darwin did assume Lamarckian inheritance, but Chiroptera correctly points out that the theory depended very little on the details of inheritance.
Incidently, Chiroptera wrote "his theory of evolution was independent of any particular theory of inheritance." You misquoted, and have the wording backwards. Use cut-and-paste with your mouse so that you can get the quotations correct.
I won't comment on the rest of your post, since that consists of responses to other people. You might find it better to write several short responses, one per post, instead of combining responses to several post in one reply.

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Message 134 of 161 (238265)
08-29-2005 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 132 by Nuggin
08-29-2005 11:03 AM


Re: Mistaken Identity
Thank you for the editing advice, but I do not seem to have the knack for it.
I live in Illinois. Come and teach me.
Huh?
I live in Illinois, and that shows on my posts. It seems that hoaryhead, who declares himself "an accomplished grammarian of the English language" is unable to read carefully enough to tell who wrote what.

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Message 138 of 161 (238296)
08-29-2005 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by hoaryhead
08-29-2005 12:48 PM


Re: Mistaken Identity
The name at the top left is the author (the handle of the author) of that post.
The name at the bottome should be self explatory. The text says:
This message is a reply to
Message 136 by hoaryhead
There can also be additional lines of the form
Replies to this message
Message 137 by nwr
It's a way of identifying which message is being replied to, and what further replies exist.

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Message 152 of 161 (238636)
08-30-2005 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by hoaryhead
08-30-2005 3:25 PM


Re: Which Language Is Legal?
We are presently flooded with propaganda for "unisex language" in translating the Bible; or, as Brian has labeled it, "inclusive language."
Who is the "We" here? I haven't been flooded with propaganda.
Although these people hate the fact, English is still the legal language in the United States of America.
Can you cite the particular law that establishes this?
So then, the plural word "their" in the English language; is insisted to be singular by Brian in his "unisex language."
Brian was describing common usage, and he documented that it is common usage.
The obvious goal of "unisex language"; determined by an honest appraisal of the writings supporting it; is to deny "The Father and The Son"; and to deny "The Male Head and the Female Body."
That's not obvious to me. I suspect that you are wrongly ascribing goals to Brian.
So then, Brian and I, speaking opposing languages, are unable to communicate with each other.
Brian is communicating quite well. Regrettably, I cannot say the same about you.
But, my language is legal.
There isn't any definition of what is legal. Languages evolve over time.

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Message 159 of 161 (239005)
08-31-2005 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by hoaryhead
08-31-2005 9:26 AM


Re: Which Language Is Legal?
We are way off topic for this thread. I have responded in a new thread in the coffee house Message 2
Let's allow this thread to resume its normal on-topic discussions.

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