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Loudmouth Inactive Member |
quote: Where is the double blind study that shows this? How did they control for the placebo effect? Did they also pray to Zeus to see if a false god would also cure the sick? Can I repeat the experiments myself? Is the study published anywhere so that I can replicate their methodology? If the study does not fit these criteria then it is not scientific. What you have is anecdotal evidence which is inherently unreliable as has beens shown by numerous scientific investigations.
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quote: Depends on how the miracle was documented. You must also show that such miraculous recoveries are never associated with non-believers or with those who pray to other gods (if you are stating that only one god exists). Also, the intervention must be repeatable by the same methodology. As is seen in many drug studies, people are miraculously cured by sugar pills all of the time.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 632 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Oh..
And which one has been docuemetned in a non-biased manner. I have seen many frauds that were docuemetned as "miracles". I have not seen any objective evidecne that any of the 'miracles' in thebible actually happened. I have seen objective evidence that shows species change over time.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 632 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Well then..
What evidence do you have that the miracles that were written about in the bible actually happened?
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Ever since darwin who made some observations, and guessed that we evolved, we have been trying to find data to make the conclusion true. Actually, Evolution was pretty much a conclusion long before Darwin came along. There was simply way too much evidence for anyone to take the Biblical account seriously for several centuries at least. What Darwin did was show a method, a mechanisim that helped explain how Evolution worked.
People such as myself have made our own observations about life, and decided that it is so wonderful, that God must have created it. Whats wrong with trying to prove it? Nothing. But what does that have to do with the TOE?
But I also see evidence that we were created. Fine. Start a thread and post some of the evidence. We'd love to discuss it. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There is evidence that disease is caused by demons and evil spirits... Can you point us to the evidence for that? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Just a joke, hon.
quote: LOL! There are hot ones and less hot ones. I happen to work with a lot of gay men and women in a very gay-friendly town, and I saw one woman's friend, and she looked just like a young Ralph Macchio. IOW, she looked an awful lot like a 14 year old boy wearing reflective shades, a bandana around her head and a white T-shirt with the sleeves rolled up.
quote: Goofy? How am I goofy? (I'm not being defensive, I'm just curious what you find goofy about the picture. FYI, my position is almost textbook-perfect, if I do say so myself.)
quote: That's "chauvinistic".
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: OK, I'll clue you in. I'm not a lesbian, riverrat. I've been happily married for almost 12 years now to a wonderful man who is also a member of this forum (Zhimbo), though he doen't post much these days because he is getting ready to defend his PhD in Cognitive Science this spring.
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Nothing is science is proven. Do you disbelieve all of science now?
quote: I asked you a specific question that required a simple, yes or no answer. Please stop avoiding the question. I will repeat it below:
Is it your point that if there are any gaps in the evolutionary history of a species, we cannot say that it has evolved at all, is that correct?
Yes or no.
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Unresponsive. I asked you very specific questions that require only a yes or no answer. Please stop avoiding answering these very simple questions: Is it true that germs cause disease? Yes or no?Is it true that matter is made up of atoms? Yes or no? Are they true "enough" for us to teach them as true in science class? Yes or no?
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lfen Member (Idle past 4697 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Charles,
Just out of curiosity what are the other meanings of giggle in the UK besides a kind of laugh, or laughing at? One usage in the US would be in the form of "it's a giggle" meaning lightweight fun. That's about all I can think of. Thanks,lfen
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 436 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
They also don't have to teach it as science, or teach it as Christian science.
The point is, that it happens all the time, yet it is ignored, and not taught in schools. Mostly because man cannot explain it, and the people who are trying to explain it, don't believe in nit, so they give it a bad rep.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 436 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
What does other Gods have to do with it?
Who am I to judge who those other Gods are. They might just be all the same God. Maybe God set up life that way so that everyone would have a chance to come to Christ. I don't know. But I see your point.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 436 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
When you leave your house tonight and bad luck sets in and you get run over by a car, and your standing at the pearly gates in front of God's judgement, what are you going to tell him?
Just curious.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 436 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
The same evidence I have that proves you wrote in this forum.
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